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You didn't answer the points. Try again "I don't understand how government is digging into a Church tenent? And I have never understood why the injunction to go and preach is twisted into forming/reforming society."Victor said:
I know that, but just like you are constantly trying to reform goverment policies to fit your secular views, so is the Church.
And Victor, government IS secular - I'm just trying to keep out sectarian views.
The people HAVE chosen. They okayed the Constitution and each amemndment by ratification. The people have voice in representive government but that must meet the standards of the Constitution which the people have approved.I disagree. I think it was intended to have the people choose above all. Not that religions don't have any influence. Most people back then were religious and it would make no sense if "religion" was to stay out.
The populace being religious at the time of the founding (17%, I believe) does not mean they intended the government to be religious. Even the first American Great Awakening did nothing to increase that number.
Nonsense. Can you tell me that all associated with the Catholic Church do not use birth control medicine, do not get abortions, do not have affairs, do not get secular divorces?To convert is to fully associate yourself to that religion. Passing abortion laws and such do not do such a thing.
~Victor