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Christianity

Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Sgt. Pepper said:
In my opinion, the fact that two billion people believe in Christianity is a perfect example of the Argumentum ad populum fallacy (see here). It appeals to a group's beliefs, preferences, or values by claiming that a particular opinion or attitude is correct because the majority of people share it. Another example of this fallacy is that thousands of gullible conservatives in the United States believe that the 2020 presidential election was stolen, despite the fact that more than 60 lawsuits were lost in federal court contesting the election results and the fact that insufficient voting fraud evidence was found to support their belief that the election was stolen from Donald Trump.
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Eh, for someone to believe a man physically rose from the dead goes a touch deeper than a Argumentum ad populum fallacy.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Starlight said:
Yes but more and more christians only believe in spiritual resurrection of Jesus
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That’s who Jesus is though. The son of God. Who rose from his grave and ‘appeared’ to the disciples. Take away his physical resurrection and you’ve got nothing really. You got a regular joe. It defines the ‘son’ of God. Not gods nephew but his son.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Starlight said:
What do you believe about Jesus resurrection?
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Well if you’ve read my other threads about the chosen one that would give you an idea. I believe existence began around 1980 so biblical times never existed really. But what I believe is what the Bible intends for me to believe. I think the Bible’s goal is to set people on their way with religion but it ultimately wants you to form your own ideas regarding spirituality. If you don’t know, I believe a certain man on earth holds existence in his hands. When he dies it all ends. He’s reborn it all begins. On and on it goes. I suppose I could call him the son of god but I don’t cuz the Bible has dibs. Haha
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Starlight said:
Yes but more and more christians only believe in spiritual resurrection of Jesus
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Yes that’s probably the next goal of the non religious but I don’t think they’ll succeed with that one. It’s Christianity in a nutshell really.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
And He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Touch Me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.” And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet (Luke 24:38–40).

If you don’t think Jesus physically rose then pack your bags and go home. Haha or you could become a Jehovah’s Witness. Or you could just say it’s symbolic to a spiritual form although I don’t know how much more clear Jesus could have been there. Or you could think Luke was trippin.

I call myself a Christian, hey why not, who believes in the physical resurrection of our Lord and Son of god Jesus.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Moon said:
Two billion people believe a man rose from the dead. What does that tell you? Do you mean to tell me two billion people are out of touch with reality and need psychiatric help? I doubt that. What’s really going on? Think about it.
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It tells me that two billion people believe stories, just because they are written in a book.
It tells me that two billion people bought off on the Christian doctrine of the resurrection.

It certainly does not tell me that Jesus rose from the dead, just becaue two billion people believe that, since that is
the fallacy of argumentum ad populum

In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many or most people believe it: "If many believe so, it is so."

This type of argument is known by several names,[1] including appeal to the masses, appeal to belief, appeal to the majority, appeal to democracy, appeal to popularity, argument by consensus, consensus fallacy, authority of the many, bandwagon fallacy, Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Moon said:
That’s who Jesus is though. The son of God. Who rose from his grave and ‘appeared’ to the disciples. Take away his physical resurrection and you’ve got nothing really. You got a regular joe. It defines the ‘son’ of God. Not gods nephew but his son.
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No, the physical resurrection has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus being the Son of God. There is no correlation whatsoever.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Moon said:
And He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Touch Me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.” And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet (Luke 24:38–40).
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Who said that? Certainly not Jesus. Anyone can write a story saying Jesus said things.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Moon said:
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You said: I think the majority of Christians believe in Jesus’ physical resurrection. That pretty much defines a Christian.
I said: So what??? What I meant is this: Why would it matter what people believe? People believe all kinds of things but does not mean they are actually true.
 
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