Christians are crazy - a worldly view

[Muffled]

You are entitled to believe whatever you want but I'll take modern medical science over biblical mumbo jumbo any day.

Modern day science in this area is close to the concept of bloodletting to get out the bad vapors in the old days of medicine.

 

[Muffled]

"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."

Romans 12:2

A person who is not grounded in Jesus is like a wave tossed in the ocean or shifting sand in the desert.

 

[Muffled]

Usually, mental illness is the diagnosis only if there's functionality impairment.

Usually the remedy is to block the spiritual connection to the brain by medicine. My grandson's father had a demon but by blocking the spiritual connection the demon can't get in.

 

[ChristineM]

Modern day science in this area is close to the concept of bloodletting to get out the bad vapors in the old days of medicine.

Modern day medical science is really quite advanced considering the thousands of years of guesswork that has held it back.

Drugs for many mental disorders actually help people to live a fairly normal life as opposed to being shunned and rejected by their tribe or locked away in a mental institution.

 

[Muffled]

Modern day medical science is really quite advanced considering the thousands of years of guesswork that has held it back.

Drugs for many mental disorders actually help people to live a fairly normal life as opposed to being shunned and rejected by their tribe or locked away in a mental institution.

I believe as the case is often in medicine. It isn't healing

 

[ChristineM]

I believe as the case is often in medicine. It isn't healing

Nothing is perfect though for most mental illness, medication helps.

I have never seen faith help any mental illness.

 

[Muffled]

Nothing is perfect though for most mental illness, medication helps.

I have never seen faith help any mental illness.

I believe I have been helped by faith counselling. Sometimes I get an unhealthy notion that needs to be expunged.

 

[ChristineM]

I believe I have been helped by faith counselling. Sometimes I get an unhealthy notion that needs to be expunged.

You are welcome to your beliefs, just so long as faith councilling does not unnecessarily prolonge or increase symptoms.

 

[Link]

Usually the remedy is to block the spiritual connection to the brain by medicine. My grandson's father had a demon but by blocking the spiritual connection the demon can't get in.

The illness is too much dopamine. With enough dopamine, you can experience any hallucination and your mind will be too fast to get out of delusional thinking. Having too much dopamine again, would not be a problem for doctors, except people with it can't function. They become severely irrational to the extent they are ready to even harm themselves and potentially others.

Now with the medications, fast brains and a lot of dopamine can be instead of a curse, be somewhat of a gift.

But you need to regulate it.

 

[Kathryn]

My brother is seriously mentally ill (potentially violent schizophrenic off his meds or they aren't working because he's mixing them with illegal substances). I just want his meds to work - they used to, but then he wasn't involved in things that he's involved in now. Also, I doubt seriously that he's going to his psychiatrist any more. He talks very fast and furious. He may have too much dopamine in his system, who knows? And really, honestly, I don't care that much as long as he stays far away from me. He has worn me out over the years. No one can reason with him and he gets on and off meds and mixes them with illegal drugs, alcohol, you name it. I am done with him.

 

[PureX]

I finished re-watching the ninth episode of Joan of Arcadia on youtube.com and realized why Joan ended up seeking psychological help ( a later episode). In history class the teacher referred to Joan of Arc as being crazy because she claimed to hear from God. This sowed the seed of doubt in Joan about her own sanity even though God has already shown her many wonderful things. However the question I have is whether to heed what the world says about our sanity when it has no experience or should we listen to our experience that has a Biblical basis?

Being that insanity is a real thing, I would not take "God" at it's word. Because I can't know for sure where that word is coming from. So for me, I would rely on the VALUE of the messages I'm being given. And the VALUE of my behavior toward others as a result. God or no God, it's how I behave toward myself and others that will decide validity. Not fantasms and miracles or divine proclamations.

 

[Muffled]

You are welcome to your beliefs, just so long as faith councilling does not unnecessarily prolonge or increase symptoms.

I believe it wouldn't have worked with a faithless counsellor.

 

[Muffled]

The illness is too much dopamine. With enough dopamine, you can experience any hallucination and your mind will be too fast to get out of delusional thinking. Having too much dopamine again, would not be a problem for doctors, except people with it can't function. They become severely irrational to the extent they are ready to even harm themselves and potentially others.

Now with the medications, fast brains and a lot of dopamine can be instead of a curse, be somewhat of a gift.

But you need to regulate it.

I am not familiar with it. What are the symptoms? How does one measure dopamine?

 

[Muffled]

Being that insanity is a real thing, I would not take "God" at it's word. Because I can't know for sure where that word is coming from. So for me, I would rely on the VALUE of the messages I'm being given. And the VALUE of my behavior toward others as a result. God or no God, it's how I behave toward myself and others that will decide validity. Not fantasms and miracles or divine proclamations.

I believe that is self godhood and very unreliable since everyone is born a sinner. Mental disorders have many ranges and causes. I met a person in the Mental Hospital who was disturbed because his father had raped him. That is difficult for the mind to accept and traumatic enough to make normal life difficult. When I met him he was nearly recovered and ready to reenter the community.

 

[ChristineM]

I believe it wouldn't have worked with a faithless counsellor.

Did you try? Or letting your bias guide you?

 

[PureX]

I believe that is self godhood and very unreliable since everyone is born a sinner.

If we are that unreliable, then God is a fool for having made us this way and then demanded that we not be as we were made. This is not logical. So I must presume that we are made as we were intended to be. And that we should rely on that being the case.

Mental disorders have many ranges and causes. I met a person in the Mental Hospital who was disturbed because his father had raped him. That is difficult for the mind to accept and traumatic enough to make normal life difficult. When I met him he was nearly recovered and ready to reenter the community.

Thanks be to all those who helped him, and for the spirit of love and kindness and wisdom within them that guided and enabled them.

 

[Muffled]

Did you try? Or letting your bias guide you?

I didn't try because I wouldn't trust a worldly person.

 

[Muffled]

If we are that unreliable, then God is a fool for having made us this way and then demanded that we not be as we were made. This is not logical. So I must presume that we are made as we were intended to be. And that we should rely on that being the case.

Thanks be to all those who helped him, and for the spirit of love and kindness and wisdom within them that guided and enabled them.

I believe God also made you with the ability to accept Him as Lord and Savior.

 

[Muffled]

If we are that unreliable, then God is a fool for having made us this way and then demanded that we not be as we were made. This is not logical. So I must presume that we are made as we were intended to be. And that we should rely on that being the case.

Thanks be to all those who helped him, and for the spirit of love and kindness and wisdom within them that guided and enabled them.

I didn't meet many counsellors, mostly patients but I did mention to a a Jewish person that the rain falls on the just and unjust alike as a bad thing but he mentioned that rain can be a good thing also. Perhaps that is what makes a good counsellor that he can see the light through the darkness.

 

[ChristineM]

I didn't try because I wouldn't trust a worldly person.

Wow... Just wow