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Christians: Did Jesus Command Peter to Deny Him Thrice?

Watchmen

Watchmen

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Well? I don't know what the original language says, but my Bible says "shall." That is language of command. So, did Jesus command Peter to deny Him thrice? That might make sense if Peter was the rock upon which the Church as to be built. It wouldn't do any good to set up the rock then have it get abused and killed by the Pharisees or Romans.
 
Charity

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
I believe it was because Jesus knew exactly everything that would happen, he knew that Peter was going to deny Him...I don't think it was a command at all.... Just as he knew about the betrayal of Judas....;)
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

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But haven't you ever felt bad for doing something even if you knew it was the "right" thing to do?
 
Charity

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
Watchmen said:
But haven't you ever felt bad for doing something even if you knew it was the "right" thing to do?
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Yes, but this "feel bad for something" was because he did something that Jesus had predicted him to do and Peter had stated that he would not do it....I still say it was not a command........How could denial of the person you claim to love be the right thing to do?
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

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Charity said:
Yes, but this "feel bad for something" was because he did something that Jesus had predicted him to do and Peter had stated that he would not do it....I still say it was not a command........How could denial of the person you claim to love be the right thing to do?
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The OP explains how it could be the right thing to do. Jesus was establishing his Church upon Peter and so he needed Peter to survive. Thus, the command to deny.
 
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LittleNipper

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Watchmen said:
The OP explains how it could be the right thing to do. Jesus was establishing his Church upon Peter and so he needed Peter to survive. Thus, the command to deny.
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Actually, CHRIST was establishing HIS CHURCH on the declaration which Peter had made ----------- namely -------------- Jesus was the CHRIST, the son of the living GOD. GOD may build with people, but HE wouldn't build on them...
 
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ἀλήθεια

Jesus set me free!
It is not a command. In King James English, it is simply stating what the future holds. Genesis 2:17 also uses the words "thou shalt" to inform Adam of the future.

"...for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
Genesis 2:17

Other examples:

"But charge Joshua, and encourage him, and strengthen him: for he shall go over before this people, and he shall cause them to inherit the land which thou shalt see."
Deuteronomy 3:28

"But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul."
Deuteronomy 4:29
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
There are many differences in language between modern english and that of King James time.
You need to understand the differences.
 
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