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Christians opposing Allah as name for God..

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Salaam

Member
anybody remember when the admirable Christian preacher suggested people of all religions could use the name Allah to refeerr to God? and then the fundamentalist ignorant false christiasn started opposing the idea/ saying it was not 'acceptable' to call God "Allah".

I just have to ask, Christiasn, how is this not acceptable to call God "Allah", but it is acceptable to call Him "god"? which is a GERMAN rooted word?!?

lets see... Jesus(pbuh) spoke Aramaic, correct? the Aramaic word for "God", is "Allaha", and Jesus spoke Aramaic, so Jesus called God "Allaha", now my question is, are the people of the christian religion THIS ignorant and ludacris, that they would consider it so unacceptable and wrong to call God "Allah", when the word "Allah" is almost PRECISELY the same name Jesus used for God?

Christians call God "god", or "Yahweh", or "Yeshua", Jesus HIMSELF called God "Allaha", or "Alaha", and the Muslims call God by the name of "Allah", not my serious question is, who is more Christ like in their naming of God? the Christians or the Muslims? and is it not ludacris to suggest that the same name Jesus used to pray to(almost same, pretty much IS the same when you think abou tit, because in many languages and ways of speaking Allah is spoken to or about in that manner "Allaha") is NOT Christ like, butt he word Hitler used for Allah IS acceptable?

this event and the reaction this brave minister got from his obviouskly insane brothers in religion, really made me look at Christians in today's day in a very negative way, and I believe any right minded perso nwould fee lthe same after comprehending this which I just learned you all.

what do you all think?
 
sandandfoam

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
Salaam said:
anybody remember when the admirable Christian preacher suggested people of all religions could use the name Allah to refeerr to God? and then the fundamentalist ignorant false christiasn started opposing the idea/ saying it was not 'acceptable' to call God "Allah".

I just have to ask, Christiasn, how is this not acceptable to call God "Allah", but it is acceptable to call Him "god"? which is a GERMAN rooted word?!?

lets see... Jesus(pbuh) spoke Aramaic, correct? the Aramaic word for "God", is "Allaha", and Jesus spoke Aramaic, so Jesus called God "Allaha", now my question is, are the people of the christian religion THIS ignorant and ludacris, that they would consider it so unacceptable and wrong to call God "Allah", when the word "Allah" is almost PRECISELY the same name Jesus used for God?

Christians call God "god", or "Yahweh", or "Yeshua", Jesus HIMSELF called God "Allaha", or "Alaha", and the Muslims call God by the name of "Allah", not my serious question is, who is more Christ like in their naming of God? the Christians or the Muslims? and is it not ludacris to suggest that the same name Jesus used to pray to(almost same, pretty much IS the same when you think abou tit, because in many languages and ways of speaking Allah is spoken to or about in that manner "Allaha") is NOT Christ like, butt he word Hitler used for Allah IS acceptable?

this event and the reaction this brave minister got from his obviouskly insane brothers in religion, really made me look at Christians in today's day in a very negative way, and I believe any right minded perso nwould fee lthe same after comprehending this which I just learned you all.

what do you all think?
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I don't care if you refer to God as Bob, and what's Hitler got to do with it???
 
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Salaam

Member
LOl ,funny none of you intellectuals even gav eanhy insight hwatsoever, but so quick to judge.

HAHA.

fact of teh amtetr is, Jesus called God "Allaha", or "Alaha", Muslims call God "Allah", and Christians cal lGod the names I just listed, now if you're so much smarter than teh idiot that obviously stunmped you, why dont you tel lme who's more christ like on this subject, the admirable minister who encouraged unity and interfaith relations, or the million others who said it was evil and "sinful" lol, even though Jesus himself called God by "Allaha", which is almost identical to "Allah"?

the raeason I mentioned hitler and his calling of God, is because the countles Christian ministers who opposed the one Christian minister who suggested peopel of all faiths can call God "Allah", consider the name Hitler used for God okay, the name Jews use for God okay, the name Africans use to cal lGod okay, but the name that Muslims cal lGod, is not okay? even though the name Muslism use for God, is almost the exact same name Jesus used to referr to God?

if you dont remember the news story I am talking about you might as well click off this thread, becasue thids probably seems pointless to you. but if you know what I'm talking about, you should see how absurd the Christian's who opposed the one minister's suggestion are. that they forbid Allah as a name for God, but accept "God", even though Allah has direct connection and striking resemblance to Jesus hismelf name of God, and God is nothing more than a made up word with more connection to hitler than to the Bible or Jesus, or what Jesus called God.
 
S

Salaam

Member
they dont have to, but the point is that the christians opposing this minister said taht it isnt even ALLOWED for a christian to call God Allah, which is ridiculous, because Jesus HIMSELF called God "Allaha", so if your objective is to be Christ like, then I doubt you should forbid doing what Christ did and saying what Christ said.
 
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Salaam

Member
so man's adapting to his surroundings has more influence on God and what we should/could call Him than our religious teachers lessons and examples? seems like another way to "convert" God's messages into new and 'improved' human ideas to me.
 
Azakel

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
I may be wrong on this but Jesus was Jewish right? Then he would not have spoken Aramaic, but Hebrew. I don't know where you get this idea that he spoke Aramaic.
 
Quagmire

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Azakel said:
I may be wrong on this but Jesus was Jewish right? Then he would not have spoken Aramaic, but Hebrew. I don't know where you get this idea that he spoke Aramaic.
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Aramaic language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aramaic is a group of Semitic languages with a 3,000-year history. It has been the language of administration of empires and the language of divine worship. It is the original language of large sections of the biblical books of Daniel and Ezra, and is the main language of the Talmud. Aramaic was the native language of Jesus


I see your point Salaam. The whole idea of division over a name is, IMO, ridiculous. And I would guess that the people most adamant about using a specific name at the exclusion of all others are the ones most opposed to finding any common ground between themselves and the people of other faiths.

Exclusion and moral superiority are two of the most dearly held fundamental principles of many religions and their sects and people wont give those up easily. "How can I tell myself I'm better than you if you keep hinting that we're actually worshipping the same God"?

IMO, it's all about politics and vanity.
 
Azakel

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
Quagmire said:
Aramaic language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aramaic is a group of Semitic languages with a 3,000-year history. It has been the language of administration of empires and the language of divine worship. It is the original language of large sections of the biblical books of Daniel and Ezra, and is the main language of the Talmud. Aramaic was the native language of Jesus
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Ok, I see. It just seem to make sense at first with out looking it up ^_^
 
Valjean

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I've always heard that Yeshua did speak Aramaic as his native language, though as a Jew, he may customarily have prayed in Hebrew, that being the liturgical language of the religion.
But also, as a Jew, he probably did not name God/Allah. Don't Jews generally address God as Adonai (sp?) -- "Lord"

I think a Christian objection to the name "Allah" is arrogant and absurd.
Every language has its own word for God. They're probably all wrong, and for all we know God may have a name impossible to pronounce with human vocal apparatus, may have a sign language rather than sonic name, or may be properly addressed only with vari-colored pulses of light.
For that matter, why would He have a name at all? Who would have named Him?

Human vocalization and sonic ranges may not be the sine qua non of intergalactic communication.
 
BruceDLimber

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
Greetings!

This shouldhn't even be an issue because:

  • The One God has many names in the various languages and cultures, and
  • Arab Christians pray to Allah! Simple difference of language.
Best, :)

Bruce
 
*Paul*

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
Salaam, does your god have a name? What does it mean when you confess that there is no ilah but allah?

Please keep your answer short.
 
Captain Civic

Captain Civic

version 2.0
Basically, because that's the only name the Muslims call him. I suppose it follows the idea that we are worshipping in their religion and not ours if we use a word for God that is (generally speaking) only applied to the Islamic faith.

Of course, it's rubbish. Being bound by names is like being bound by law. Jesus set us free of law; why are they trying to lock us back up again?
 
Aure

Aure

MUSHA
Its not all christians salaam, I was raised catholic and never once have I heard Allah was inappropriet.

And Captain Civic Jesues was a follower of the Law but forgave sins, how did he set us free from the law?
 
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