Christians opposing Allah as name for God..

[kai]

allah is the Arab name for god used by Arabs be they christians or muslims, Arabic-speakers of all so called Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews use the word "Allah" to mean "God". The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for 'God' than 'Allah'.Arab Christians for example use terms Allāh al-ab (الله الآ&#1576 meaningGod the father Allāh al-ibn (الله الاب&#1606 mean god the son and Allāh al-rūḥ al qudus (الله الروح القد&#1587 meaning meaning God the holy spiritfor the Christian concept of God).Arab Christians
have used two forms of invocations that were fixed to the beginning of their written works. They adopted the Muslim basm-allah, and also created their own Trinitized basm-allah as early as the eight century CE. The Muslim basm-allah reads: "In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful." The Trinitized basm-allah reads: "In the name of Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, One God." The syriac Latin and Greek invocations do not have the words "One God" at the end. This addition was made to emphasize the monotheistic aspect of Trinitian belief and also to make it more palatable to Muslims.
but Christians cannot worship Allah in the same sense a muslim does, in his islamic form Allah is no father nor has he a son, what name you call your God may be irrelevant but the God a christian is visualising in his mind as he prays is a diametrically opposite "kind" of God to the God a Muslim is visuallising in his mind.

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[look3467]

He who loves not his brother loves not God, Allah, or any other name for God.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[Rolling_Stone]

Isn't the literal translation for Allah "the God"? I have no problem with it being used by anyone who feels it appropriate, but personally I prefer something more intimate, like "Father" or "Abba."

 

[look3467]

Isn't the literal translation for Allah "the God"? I have no problem with it being used by anyone who feels it appropriate, but personally I prefer something more intimate, like "Father" or "Abba."

It is as you feel it in your heart!

When you were a child, you called your father "daddy"? Now, that is very intimate.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[Shellybelly7]

I have never heard Christians oppose the use of Allah, well except for my mom, who is a Jehovah's Witness. I was raised Christian and I believe that Allah is just another way of saying God. However, you as a Muslim believe that Allah is the purest pronunciation of God and all others pale in comparison and also your language is the closest to God's and that the Quran read aloud in your language is the best way to hear it.

 

[kai]

I have never heard Christians oppose the use of Allah, well except for my mom, who is a Jehovah's Witness. I was raised Christian and I believe that Allah is just another way of saying God. However, you as a Muslim believe that Allah is the purest pronunciation of God and all others pale in comparison and also your language is the closest to God's and that the Quran read aloud in your language is the best way to hear it.

thats because most people dont have a clue what Islam is or what it beleives Allah to be, its not in the name ,its its in the doctrine,Allah is not a father and has no son,jesus is not devine , and was not crucified,that is why your mother would not use the word Allah for her god .

 

[Sola'lor]

anybody remember when the admirable Christian preacher suggested people of all religions could use the name Allah to refeerr to God? and then the fundamentalist ignorant false christiasn started opposing the idea/ saying it was not 'acceptable' to call God "Allah".

I just have to ask, Christiasn, how is this not acceptable to call God "Allah", but it is acceptable to call Him "god"? which is a GERMAN rooted word?!?

lets see... Jesus(pbuh) spoke Aramaic, correct? the Aramaic word for "God", is "Allaha", and Jesus spoke Aramaic, so Jesus called God "Allaha", now my question is, are the people of the christian religion THIS ignorant and ludacris, that they would consider it so unacceptable and wrong to call God "Allah", when the word "Allah" is almost PRECISELY the same name Jesus used for God?

Christians call God "god", or "Yahweh", or "Yeshua", Jesus HIMSELF called God "Allaha", or "Alaha", and the Muslims call God by the name of "Allah", not my serious question is, who is more Christ like in their naming of God? the Christians or the Muslims? and is it not ludacris to suggest that the same name Jesus used to pray to(almost same, pretty much IS the same when you think abou tit, because in many languages and ways of speaking Allah is spoken to or about in that manner "Allaha") is NOT Christ like, butt he word Hitler used for Allah IS acceptable?

this event and the reaction this brave minister got from his obviouskly insane brothers in religion, really made me look at Christians in today's day in a very negative way, and I believe any right minded perso nwould fee lthe same after comprehending this which I just learned you all.

what do you all think?

Becuase the English word for God is God. I speak English so I call Him God. In Tagalog the words fro God is Diyos. If I'm speaking Tagalog I will call Him Diyos.

 

[look3467]

Why should there be an argument as to how we address God?

Unless we want to keep God all to our selves.

Listen, God is love and if any of us can not exercises it, then what difference does it make what you call God?

If love is not practiced in your religious beliefs to wards your brother or sister, then you don't have God period!

1Jo 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[Random]

Yes, it is widely believed Jesus spoke aramaic as his first language. But so what?

God has lots of names going way back, as far as I can see. Yahweh is His true name, but Allah or Alllaha is used by many Christians in Islamic countries and the Near/Far East, and I see no problem with that...except that Allah (or ai-lah, meaning "The God") is claimed by some to have been an old Pagan Moon-god and consort of the Goddess, before being elevated by Mahomet to Supreme status. But I don't wish to comment on that claim...

 

[nawab]

Allah is not the name of God , it is like the God in English, Allah = The God, Rab = The Lord.

Why we Muslims prefer to call Allah, is because 1st this word as no Sex/Gender to it self, it cannot be plural, you cannot add any other word with Allah to make a different word.

But with God, it is a male Gender, you add dess it becomes a female God, you add S it becomes plural, you add father or mother with God, it becomes a different meaning.

No matter they are pagens, Muslims or Christians in Arabic you use the word Allah for God Almighty.

 

[Scott1]

No matter they are pagens, Muslims or Christians in Arabic you use the word Allah for God Almighty.

How would someone who spoke Arabic, a Pagan for instance who believed in many gods , call their gods? Are you saying they would intentionally use the singular form Allah to desribe a plurality of gods?

 

[Popeyesays]

Allah is not the name of God , it is like the God in English, Allah = The God, Rab = The Lord.

Why we Muslims prefer to call Allah, is because 1st this word as no Sex/Gender to it self, it cannot be plural, you cannot add any other word with Allah to make a different word.

But with God, it is a male Gender, you add dess it becomes a female God, you add S it becomes plural, you add father or mother with God, it becomes a different meaning.

No matter they are pagens, Muslims or Christians in Arabic you use the word Allah for God Almighty.

Actually Arabic adds "Allah" to many names and phrases without a pause:

Amr'ullah. Bis'millah, Abd'u'llah. Insh'allah/ Mash'allah, etc., etc..

Regards,
Scott

 

[kai]

How would someone who spoke Arabic, a Pagan for instance who believed in many gods , call their gods? Are you saying they would intentionally use the singular form Allah to desribe a plurality of gods?

no they would not the muslims worship Allah,Allah is the supreme and all-comprehensive divine name. All other divine names are believed to refer back to Allah. Allah is unique, the only God,the transcendent creator of the universe and omnipotent. Allah, is the supreme and allcomprehensive divine name for the muslim god.

 

[nawab]

Scott i think you dont know arabic, Amr'ullah. Bis'millah, Abd'u'llah. Insh'allah/ Mash'allah

these are words to describe the might of Allah , do we have a word like Allah Abba (Godfather)Allah Umi (Godmother) the words you mentioned they are translated as of Allah not directly as something God, like my real name is Asadullah if you separate the words they become Asad ul Allah, which means The Lion of Allah and not the Lion God there is no such word but in english there is.you cannot add a noun with Allah. I hope this part is clear you can say that Of Allah, Abdullah Slave of Allah, Amrullah, Commander of Allah, but there is no word as AbdAllah The God Slave or Amrallah The commander Allah.

 

[Scott1]

no they would not the muslims worship Allah,Allah is the supreme and all-comprehensive divine name. All other divine names are believed to refer back to Allah. Allah is unique, the only God,the transcendent creator of the universe and omnipotent. Allah, is the supreme and allcomprehensive divine name for the muslim god.

What word would they use to describe their gods?

 

[kai]

i beleve al or ila means deity , but an arab speaker is obviosly more capable of answering the question

 

[nawab]

the had different names for thier own petty gods like hanbal, MItra, etc. Allah was even in the age of ignorance, was used to call the one God.

 

[Scott1]

Methinks someone is avoiding a simple question.

What would a druid, or native american.... a person who believed in multiple gods... write in Arabic to descibe their belief?

Or are you telling me they could never generalize and use "gods" and that they would have to name hundreds of gods in every sentence they used?

 

[Popeyesays]

Scott i think you dont know arabic, Amr'ullah. Bis'millah, Abd'u'llah. Insh'allah/ Mash'allah

these are words to describe the might of Allah , do we have a word like Allah Abba (Godfather)Allah Umi (Godmother) the words you mentioned they are translated as of Allah not directly as something God, like my real name is Asadullah if you separate the words they become Asad ul Allah, which means The Lion of Allah and not the Lion God there is no such word but in english there is.you cannot add a noun with Allah. I hope this part is clear you can say that Of Allah, Abdullah Slave of Allah, Amrullah, Commander of Allah, but there is no word as AbdAllah The God Slave or Amrallah The commander Allah.

Amr'u'llah=Cause of God Abd'ullah+Servant of God, etc..

'u' is the usual form for the possessive case, meaning 'of'. Just because it is in the possessive case does not mean it is not a noun. Even in Arabic.

Regards,

Scott

 

[Popeyesays]

Methinks someone is avoiding a simple question.

What would a druid, or native american.... a person who believed in multiple gods... write in Arabic to descibe their belief?

Or are you telling me they could never generalize and use "gods" and that they would have to name hundreds of gods in every sentence they used?

The language has changed consider since the days of the idolators of Meccah. Arabic is no longer very suited for discussing 'gods'.

Regards,
Scott