Christians: why did God do that to me?

[Hockeycowboy]

This is a fallen world and while we pretend to be just or some claim the world is in itself just, neither is true.

Rain falls on the good as well as on the wicked, children die of cancer, and wicked things are done in high places.

We are living in the fallen design, not the original perfected work which God called “good”.

Very good description of our current reality! If I may ask, who taught you this? Or did you come to this conclusion on your own?

 

[Estro Felino]

It not about what you 'know'...its about what you 'believe'. We all have baggage from our upbringing and we can use that as an excuse to blame others (even God) for what we do ourselves in adulthood. But if we are past adolescence, then mature thinking should be able to get us past all our negative experiences and move on, minus the baggage. If we need professional help to do that then it is recommended. All we have is the present....the past should not make our present miserable, nor threaten our future happiness.

I see a Catholic upbringing as an incredible handicap for any believer. It is all so skewed that anything looks more feasible by comparison IMO. But sometimes all it takes is to get to know the God you think is responsible for all your troubles. In turns out, nothing could be further from the truth. God stepped back and simply allowed humans to make their own decisions and reap the consequences. Its what they wanted, so he gave them the freedom to see for themselves how bad they were at making good decisions.

I got to know him and it was the best thing I ever did. He is nothing like the church paints him.

Your wisdom is refreshing.
Your courage is admirable.

You're very courageous, you were one of the few Christians who had the courage to reply to my thread.

God bless you.

 

[sooda]

Very good description of our current reality! If I may ask, who taught you this? Or did you come to this conclusion on your own?

As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind? Neither this man nor his parents sinned, said Jesus, but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.

John 9:1-3

 

[Estro Felino]

As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind? Neither this man nor his parents sinned, said Jesus, but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.

John 9:1-3

THANK YOU
for quoting this beautiful passage

 

[Hockeycowboy]

As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind? Neither this man nor his parents sinned, said Jesus, but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.

John 9:1-3

The man was healed, wasn't he? So "the works of God" were "displayed", weren't they?

 

[sooda]

The man was healed, wasn't he? So "the works of God" were "displayed", weren't they?

We were talking about children inheriting the burden of parental sin .. Scripture says that's a crock.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

We were talking about children inheriting the burden of parental sin .. Scripture says that's a crock.

Sorry, I misunderstood; you are exactly right.

If you were to replace the word 'sin' with 'imperfection', though.... some ills are inherited from our parents.

 

[sooda]

Sorry, I misunderstood; you are exactly right.

If you were to replace the word 'sin' with 'imperfection', though.... some ills are inherited from our parents.

"Ills are not sin..

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Si

"Ills are not sin..

Yes, it is part of it. Sin means to "miss the mark". Imperfections fit the same definition.

 

[Sky Rivers]

Very good description of our current reality! If I may ask, who taught you this? Or did you come to this conclusion on your own?

The Bible and God taught me this.

 

[sooda]

Si


Yes, it is part of it. Sin means to "miss the mark". Imperfections fit the same definition.

Sin is an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.

Sin | Definition of Sin by Merriam-Webster

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sin

More on the Meaning of sin.

The original meanings of sin were largely concerned with religious matters ("an offense against religious or moral law"; "a transgression of the law of God"; "a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God"), as they still are today.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Sin is an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.

Sin | Definition of Sin by Merriam-Webster

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sin

More on the Meaning of sin.

The original meanings of sin were largely concerned with religious matters ("an offense against religious or moral law"; "a transgression of the law of God"; "a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God"), as they still are today.

"To sin" has been defined from a Greek concordance as "to miss the mark".
Sin - Wikipedia

 

[Estro Felino]

"To sin" has been defined from a Greek concordance as "to miss the mark".
Sin - Wikipedia

but in Latin pecco means to make a mistake , to err.

 

[sooda]

"To sin" has been defined from a Greek concordance as "to miss the mark".
Sin - Wikipedia

Hebrew hata "sin" originates in archery and literally refers to missing the "gold" at the centre of a target, but hitting the target, i.e. error.

 

[Estro Felino]

The Bible and God taught me this.

nice,...what is your denomination, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Estro Felino]

hey @metis
I'm curious about your Catholic wife's opinion.
What does she think about this?

 

[Windwalker]

My parents got married but they have never loved each other.

Me and my sisters, we are not the product of romantic love.
They made us just to have children.

Romantic love is a more modern notion. Historically, getting married and having children was for pragmatic reasons. Free labor on the farm. Having multiple children was an insurance policy in case of the death of a child, there were others to fill in the gap. In doing my geneology, going back into the 1800s you'd see much larger families, with upwards of 15 children, several which died in early childhood.

None of that means that the parents did not love the children. That is natural. It's part of evolution. It's how children have the best chance of survival. That mom and dad were romantic, well, even if that was part of the early attraction that brought them together, romantic love fades, and hopefully is replaced with actual love. But even if not between the parents, the love for the child should be there, unless there is something wrong with the parent, such as having a narcissistic personality disorder where they are incapable of loving another person.

But they gave us much love...
but growing up in a family with a marriage-farce is sad. very sad.

If they gave you actual love, then you were blessed. Romantic love is overrated.

 

[metis]

hey @metis
I'm curious about your Catholic wife's opinion.
What does she think about this?

I would if I could but it appears that my post was deleted even though I didn't receive any notification and I can't remember the point I made. I'm going to ask the moderators about this.

If you can remember what I posted, please let me know and I'll respond back to ya.

 

[metis]

hey @metis
I'm curious about your Catholic wife's opinion.
What does she think about this?

It appears that I didn't post on this thread previously, so may I ask which point do you want my wife's opinion on, plus why her?

 

[1213]

...how could you give male genitals to a female?

What do you think the words “male” and “female” means?