Shermana
Heretic
There is no Hebrew word for "as".
As for the "For", the context is always "With". As with "As with". The use of the word "For" for "As with" only means "for" in that sense of "with". With that said, there is no "And" there. You cannot simply expect direct English translation from the Hebrew.
We see the word correlated for "As" here,
http://bible.cc/isaiah/49-26.htm
Otherwise without that "As", the context means "With wine" directly without the comparative sense. Which makes no sense.
Are you trying to imply that all the writers of the ancient Midrash and Hebrew scholars and the ancient writers like Philo and Josephus and other Hebrew speakers didn't understand the equivalent concept of the correlation of "as"? This was NEVER interpreted as anything differently than a total prohibition on male-male relations in any point in recorded Jewish history.
Your case involves trying to say that ALL the Hebrew speaking scholars and writers somehow lost or changed this knowledge and only Liberal scholars and those like yourself have somehow managed to reclaim this lost understanding that the professionals for millenia have ALL gotten wrong without exception.
Genesis 9:10 Hebrew Texts and Analysis
As much as I hate Tektonics, they cover your same arguments almost exactly as I covered them.
As for the "For", the context is always "With". As with "As with". The use of the word "For" for "As with" only means "for" in that sense of "with". With that said, there is no "And" there. You cannot simply expect direct English translation from the Hebrew.
We see the word correlated for "As" here,
http://bible.cc/isaiah/49-26.htm
Otherwise without that "As", the context means "With wine" directly without the comparative sense. Which makes no sense.
Are you trying to imply that all the writers of the ancient Midrash and Hebrew scholars and the ancient writers like Philo and Josephus and other Hebrew speakers didn't understand the equivalent concept of the correlation of "as"? This was NEVER interpreted as anything differently than a total prohibition on male-male relations in any point in recorded Jewish history.
Your case involves trying to say that ALL the Hebrew speaking scholars and writers somehow lost or changed this knowledge and only Liberal scholars and those like yourself have somehow managed to reclaim this lost understanding that the professionals for millenia have ALL gotten wrong without exception.
Genesis 9:10 Hebrew Texts and Analysis
As much as I hate Tektonics, they cover your same arguments almost exactly as I covered them.
Last edited:
