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Citizenship of a fetus?

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
So you think citizenship for fetuses is an
issue worth investing time to consider, eh.
Have you heard of "sarcasm", or "reductio ad absurdum"?
I know from past interactions that you know how to operate a dictionary, so I suggest looking up those terms.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Have you heard of "sarcasm", or "reductio ad absurdum"?
I know from past interactions that you know how to operate a dictionary, so I suggest looking up those terms.
Actually, your slight would've worked better
if you'd used "sarchasm" instead of "sarcasm".
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
From the UN Declaration of Human Rights:

Article 15

1. Everyone has the right to a nationality.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.


Many countries, even if they aren't signatories to the UNDHR, include a similar principle in their laws.

A question for those of you who argue that a fetus is a person: how should this principle be applied to fetuses?

Normally, birthright citizenship gets conferred based on, well, a person's place of birth. Before that, though... is a fetus a stateless person? If so, is that a violation of the fetus's rights?

Should we recognize a nationality of the fetus? If so, how should that be determined? Based on the nationality of the parents? The place where the fetus was conceived?

In cases where the nationality of the fetus doesn't match how we determine the nationality of the child, is this an arbitrary deprivation of the child's nationality?
Citizen of the earth.
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
I think that there should be no stateless people. Everyone has the right to a nationality.

You've only asserted that they have the right to a nationality and my post was about the rights of people without a nationality. This indicates your tacit agreement with the notion that they have no other rights (aka citizenship is the "right to have rights").

I fundamentally disagree with that assertion. Stateless people are people and they do have rights besides that of nationality. Such rights are sometimes referred to as Human Rights - they are not granted by any state.
 
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