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Classified Documents Found In Biden's Personal Office

We Never Know

No Slack
Biden is the acting president of the US. He has access to all classified docements wherever he is. And I feel quite sure that his personal office is secured at all times.

"classified documents from Biden's VP term"

Meaning he took them when he was VP.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Biden is the acting president of the US. He has access to all classified docements wherever he is. And I feel quite sure that his personal office is secured at all times.
Do you have a problem with written comprehension? From the article:
Classified documents from Joe Biden's vice-presidential days were discovered in November by the U.S. president's personal attorneys at a Washington think tank, a White House lawyer said on Monday.
The classified material was identified by personal attorneys for Biden on Nov. 2, days before the midterm elections
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
False equivalence. But FRight-Wing media REALLY wants to make it the same. haha

I'm pretty sure Biden didn't take anything. His staff most likely did.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Do you have a problem with written comprehension? From the article:
Classified documents from Joe Biden's vice-presidential days were discovered in November by the U.S. president's personal attorneys at a Washington think tank, a White House lawyer said on Monday.
The classified material was identified by personal attorneys for Biden on Nov. 2, days before the midterm elections
None of this matters, as he is and was the president in November, and had access to them regardless of where they are or how old they are.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well now it seems that classified documents from Biden's VP term were found in his office at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Nov. So, is Biden now in just as much trouble as Trump over mishandling of classified documents?
Classified documents from Biden's vice presidency found at think tank
I think its a problem when your ex president and have to return them.


Still, it begs the question why classified material is allowing storage in arguably unsecured locations.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
If you don’t know the difference between discovering documents and immediately alerting the archives and ignoring repeated requests plus denying you have them....
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Another indication that sooner or later absent-minded Joe will leave behind incriminating evidence of his crimes which will be found out.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Another indication that sooner or later absent-minded Joe will leave behind incriminating evidence of his crimes which will be found out.
It should be interesting to see how Biden handles this and compare it to how Trump did.

I suppose if Biden is just like Trump we should expect to him claim the FBI planted these documents, then claim he has the right to have them, then threaten to fire Merrick Garland.

Let’s see what happens.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
The point that everyone is missing is that any President, has access to the top of the top secret food chain. They has top level access to all types of information. What is the difference if this data is in their memory or on paper, since it is the same data?

We do not erase the memory of the President when he leaves office. If any President was up to no good, for personal gain, their word would still be worth money, even without documents. This is why ex presidents get paid big bucks to lecture. They can skate around and still give out some useful information.

Classified documents is more often about sentiment, about a particular important time. It is often kept as a keepsake, and usually ends in their Presidential library or in boxes in the closet, with old photos.

In the case of Trump some of the assumed classified documents were harmful to the Swamp, which is why they made a stink. They could use their lawyers to deny Trump's memory. But they cannot hide from hard intel about Hunter and his laptop, written on official stationary, that has signatures and can be verified. This would be damming evidence, beyond just the memory of the document.

If you look at the ordering of document secrecy classifications, it begins with Confidential, next is it Restricted, then we have Classified, then we have Secret and finally we have Top Secret. Classified is sort of chump change, to someone, like a President who deals in Secret and Top secret. But if you are out of the loop, even confidential sounds very important. You will not see Confidential without low Low level security clearance.

If all you had was classified documents, you would not have all the best stuff than enemies crave, which is secret and top secret. You would have more like day to day operations, behind the good stuff, that will someday be de-classified. I doubt would either Biden or Trump would be cavalier with Secret and Top Secret data, since both in their own ways, are loyal to the country and neither would betray it.

But some of the meetings during their tenure, may be eventful to them, and they may wish to preserve these through the original documents, way outside top secret Q-area documents. Nobody has accuse either of Secret and Top Secret documents, so what is the big deal for a President, who know way more, other than the optics of politics. This is small change for a President. The Swamp Democrats started this nonsense. So what comes around should be able to go around. The Left is now finding common sense, they lacked during the coup.

Sorry, but not only did tRump clearly and undeniably have Secret and Top Secret documents ("the best stuff than enemies crave"),
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but he kept knowingly and willfully denied attempts by the rightful record keepers to return them to where they could be protected. Also, your false claim that tRump the Traitor and leader of the Insurgency on January 6th 2021 was... :eek:.."loyal to the country".. :p...is beyond the pale. :facepalm:

Oh wait......:anguished:....did you mean to Russia?


On a totally different level, as has been shown above, Biden and the admin are immediately and happily handing back all the items that were found. And most likely, they are scouring the area for anything else that should go back to the record keepers. :shrug:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It also begs the question, is biden as current president entitled to those documents.
Or was trump as ex president entitled to the documents he held
It makes no difference whether Biden is or is not entitled to the documents. From the link
Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.
Prosecution for offenses typical depends upon
severity, ie, was the crime materially significant?
Hey, if Trump goes to prison for his crimes, then
Biden should be next for prosecution.
We need to see more pols prosecuted.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
None of this matters, as he is and was the president in November, and had access to them regardless of where they are or how old they are.
You do realize that he, Biden, was not in office from 2016 to 2021. That was the period that he took the documents.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
You do realize that he, Biden, was not in office from 2016 to 2021. That was the period that he took the documents.
No one knows when or how those documents got there. No one knows why. No one knows that they were there when Biden was not in high office or that even then that he didn't have legitimate access them. All that matters, now, is that when those documents were found Joe Biden was president, and as such he had a right to access them no matter where he happened to be. If someone neglected to secure them when he was done with them that should be corrected.

That's it. It's a non-story. But not to the Biden-haters. To them, it must be repeated over and over and over and over in the media until people think Biden did something wrong. And for the next two years, this how it's going to be. One phony, pointless story after another trying to implicate Biden in something: anything "bad". And here you will be, on RF, repeating every single one of those phony politically motivated slander stories for the next couple of years. Until the next election.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
You do realize that he, Biden, was not in office from 2016 to 2021. That was the period that he took the documents.
Excellent point. An ex Vice President has as much right to hold these documents as an ex President. Or an ex candlestick maker for that matter.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
No one knows when or how those documents got there. No one knows why. No one knows that they were there when Biden was not in high office or that even then that he didn't have legitimate access them.
Garbage excuses like that will not work for Trump and they will not work for Biden. I don’t believe for a second that after being sworn in as President Biden grabbed a bunch of top secret documents and stashed them in a private office that he no longer uses and has no connection to the federal government.

Let get real.

These documents include top secret documents. They were in Biden’s procession during the years when Biden was not in government. And Biden is responsible for this.


I actually like Biden. I always have. But he will very likely get impeached over this. He should be impeached over this.

Biden and his White House legal team don't know exactly what's in classified documents found in private office, sources say | CNN Politics


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Yes, in many ways this is different from what Trump did, but is some ways it is similar. And neither should get away with it.
 
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