Coincidence or Something Else?

[beenherebeforeagain]

My mind is in such a state each day. Why do you think this took place on her birthday of all days, when I had no idea what the date was?

because your subconscious mind knew what date it was?

synchronicity, man...

 

[Heyo]

I don't recall exactly what time theory (quantum mechanics perhaps?) explains that time only appears as linear, and the that past, present, and future are illusory; that everything that has happening, is happening, or will happen, is in a perpetual state of occurring/existing.

Perhaps there is a means in which such a state can be perceived/attained?

It isn't really a theory, more a model trying to explain time, especially in the scope of General Relativity where time can be bent like space.
In that model everything exists simultaneously just like the frames of a film. Only our perception makes "the pictures move".

 

[Vinayaka]

Several -- not one, but several -- internal clocks have been discovered in humans. Our bodies keep track of time in several ways. Some of the clocks measure tiny intervals akin to seconds. Others measure seasons. And still others measure other intervals.

You know the sense or feel you have of a week ago being longer than a day ago? You have that sense or feel because you have a clock inside you measuring time.

Yogis, with practice, can wake up at a particular precise time. No alarm clock needed. They know how to program their internal clocks. My internal clock is accurate to within + or - 10 minutes 95 times out of 20, or so. There were two nights recently where 'something' was off. I woke in the middle of the night, guessed 2:30, and it was past 4:30. More than 2 hours off is rather unusual.

The sun also has a lot to do with the internal clock.

 

[sun rise]

a few of my daughter's last words came through to me, specifically the words, "It's so beautiful!"

Others have covered your question but I wanted to note her words "it's so beautiful". That those words are alive for you is to me a mark of their deep meaning.

At one part of my journey in this life, I became fascinated with near death experiences and people's last words. I felt a resonance with a deep part of my psyche when I read those simple words.

 

[Vinayaka]

Typically 25-45 minutes. Occasionally a bit shorter or longer.

When I come back to a waking awareness.

Not consistently, but if I don't, I usually come home with about half of what I needed or a vital ingredient missing for what I planned on making. Most recently, I wanted grilled cheese and came home without the bread.

More times than not, I don't. It's become worse as I've gotten older. I lose my words that I used to use quite frequently. I never had a great short-term memory, and it diminishes with time.

I missed the ashttotaram portion of my puja this morning, and didn't realise it until I saw the basket still full of flowers. Age, eh?

 

[Fool]

I was going to put this little story in Journals, but I reconsidered after thinking it might bring some good discussion or debate.

For those of you who don't already know, I lost a daughter to cancer 13 years ago, which will help you better understand what I'm about to say.

My morning routine upon waking is brushing my teeth, taking care of any calls of nature, showering, and immediately meditating.

During this morning's meditation, a few of my daughter's last words came through to me, specifically the words, "It's so beautiful!" As you could image, this opened a bit of a floodgate. The emotions passed and I returned to my usual meditative state.

Fast forward a few hours, and I happened to glance at today's date on the lower right hand corner of my laptop. 12/11. Today would have been my daughter's 35th birthday. I was entirely ignorant of the date today until that time.

I don't often think of the day my daughter passed, and rarely, if ever, during meditation. Usually memories surround other parts of her life.

So I ask you, denizens of RF, do you think there is something more to this than mere coincidence? Why or why not?

synchronicity is a strange bird. i've had it happen to me a few times. what are the chances, unless you're paying attention.


are you paying attention?


peaceful warrior

 

[SalixIncendium]

Yogis, with practice, can wake up at a particular precise time. No alarm clock needed. They know how to program their internal clocks. My internal clock is accurate to within + or - 10 minutes 95 times out of 20, or so. There were two nights recently where 'something' was off. I woke in the middle of the night, guessed 2:30, and it was past 4:30. More than 2 hours off is rather unusual.

The sun also has a lot to do with the internal clock.

Yeah, I'm doing my best to adjust my sleep schedule since I'm told I will be working until 9pm at my new job. I've changed my alarm to go off at 5am instead of 4am. While I'm hoping to sleep a bit later, I still wake up each morning between 3:30 and 3:40.

 

[Vinayaka]

Probability isn't well understood by average Joe. The classic example to demonstrate this is how many people you'd need in a room before there is a better than 50 50 chance two of those people share the same birthday. Assuming you don't know the answer, take a guess.

 

[Vinayaka]

Yeah, I'm doing my best to adjust my sleep schedule since I'm told I will be working until 9pm at my new job. I've changed my alarm to go off at 5am instead of 4am. While I'm hoping to sleep a bit later, I still wake up each morning between 3:30 and 3:40.

Going to Mauritius was brutal ... 11 hours difference. It took a couple of weeks. More when we got home. Have fun.

 

[Muffled]

I was going to put this little story in Journals, but I reconsidered after thinking it might bring some good discussion or debate.

For those of you who don't already know, I lost a daughter to cancer 13 years ago, which will help you better understand what I'm about to say.

My morning routine upon waking is brushing my teeth, taking care of any calls of nature, showering, and immediately meditating.

During this morning's meditation, a few of my daughter's last words came through to me, specifically the words, "It's so beautiful!" As you could image, this opened a bit of a floodgate. The emotions passed and I returned to my usual meditative state.

Fast forward a few hours, and I happened to glance at today's date on the lower right hand corner of my laptop. 12/11. Today would have been my daughter's 35th birthday. I was entirely ignorant of the date today until that time.

I don't often think of the day my daughter passed, and rarely, if ever, during meditation. Usually memories surround other parts of her life.

So I ask you, denizens of RF, do you think there is something more to this than mere coincidence? Why or why not?

I can't even relate to how it must feel to lose a child. The closest I can come is the death of my wife to cancer at age 68.

I believe meditation taps your spirit usually and it remembers the statement and the date even though those are not currently in your conscious mind.

 

[syo]

It's not coincidence. Your daughter clearly spoke to you. Our loved ones never leave us alone.

 

[Muffled]

I cannot imagine the pain of the moment and the difficulty of your journey.

I don't think it is a coincidence but rather God saying in a subliminal way, "She is with me--and she loves it!" My 2 cents.

I believe that depends on what she believed. A spirit can fantasize something beautiful without the help of God.

 

[Muffled]

I have no need to convince anybody of anything, but my interpretation, as a strong believer in reincarnation, would be that she's (the soul, not the personality) messaging you from the astral, and she's still there, but probably wishing to move on. For the vast majority, getting a new body happens between 0 to 12 years. Very young souls, or those who don't understand can leave on one end of the hospital, and come back at the other end, as both exit, and enter happen at the same place.

Traditional Hindus in my tradition celebrate the death anniversary for up to 12 years, but not usually longer, once they sense a new body has been found. Given her age, I'm guessing you and she were close. Hindus who haven't been corrupted or influenced by western grieving systems celebrate death, and hope for the loved ones to move on. I have a cousin who lost his daughter in a car accident. She's still around, and he's still not over it, 25 years later.

"Let go the rope' as they say, but it seems like you have. It's she that hasn't. If you know (and like) somebody who's pregnant, go hang out with them. That is a way of telling her you're okay with it.
Best wishes.

I believe 12 years is only a guess. It depends on the availability of births and the number of people waiting. I believe when the world had fewer people the wait was longer. Now that the world is nearly full the wait is very short.

I would consider that an extremely remote possibility. I believe most people don't remember much about past lives and I suspect that is God protecting us from too much information and wanting us to focus on the present.

 

[firedragon]

I was going to put this little story in Journals, but I reconsidered after thinking it might bring some good discussion or debate.

For those of you who don't already know, I lost a daughter to cancer 13 years ago, which will help you better understand what I'm about to say.

My morning routine upon waking is brushing my teeth, taking care of any calls of nature, showering, and immediately meditating.

During this morning's meditation, a few of my daughter's last words came through to me, specifically the words, "It's so beautiful!" As you could image, this opened a bit of a floodgate. The emotions passed and I returned to my usual meditative state.

Fast forward a few hours, and I happened to glance at today's date on the lower right hand corner of my laptop. 12/11. Today would have been my daughter's 35th birthday. I was entirely ignorant of the date today until that time.

I don't often think of the day my daughter passed, and rarely, if ever, during meditation. Usually memories surround other parts of her life.

So I ask you, denizens of RF, do you think there is something more to this than mere coincidence? Why or why not?

I cant quote you directly because I dont have them in hand but I do know that there was some research done on this kind of thing. I do believe that humans have some kind of third sense, and these things cannot be so easily dismissed to coincidence.

But cannot be proven without doubt either.

Edited this to tell you @SalixIncendium that I am truly sorry for your loss. I dont mean to make you emotional and I am sorry if I did that, but I could not even imagine how and what you feel. I wish you all the strength and the best in life. Cheers.

 

[Scott C.]

Not a coincidence. I believe loved ones who have passed away can and do communicate with us at times. From my religious perspective your daughter is very much the same person, but in the spirit world. She probably knows a lot more about your comings and goings than you realize. I believe the Lord allows the veil that separates us to at times be thin. That is my view.

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

Dear @SalixIncendium

You will of course get all sort of thoughts (some more humane than others) on whether this was coincidental or not. Please do not forget that the most important thing about your experience during that meditation is what it meant to you and that your own explanation as to why it happened when it did, is the only one of true value here.

Humbly
Hermit

 

[QuestioningMind]

I was going to put this little story in Journals, but I reconsidered after thinking it might bring some good discussion or debate.

For those of you who don't already know, I lost a daughter to cancer 13 years ago, which will help you better understand what I'm about to say.

My morning routine upon waking is brushing my teeth, taking care of any calls of nature, showering, and immediately meditating.

During this morning's meditation, a few of my daughter's last words came through to me, specifically the words, "It's so beautiful!" As you could image, this opened a bit of a floodgate. The emotions passed and I returned to my usual meditative state.

Fast forward a few hours, and I happened to glance at today's date on the lower right hand corner of my laptop. 12/11. Today would have been my daughter's 35th birthday. I was entirely ignorant of the date today until that time.

I don't often think of the day my daughter passed, and rarely, if ever, during meditation. Usually memories surround other parts of her life.

So I ask you, denizens of RF, do you think there is something more to this than mere coincidence? Why or why not?

I don't think it has anything to do with coincidence. I suspect that even though you weren't consciously aware of the date that subconsciously you were. I don't find it at all surprising that while in a meditative state - which exists on the borderline between the conscious and subconscious - that this subconscious awareness seeped into your conscious mind.

 

[QuestioningMind]

My mind is in such a state each day. Why do you think this took place on her birthday of all days, when I had no idea what the date was?

It seems fairly obvious to me that subconsciously you were quite aware of the date.

 

[nPeace]

I was going to put this little story in Journals, but I reconsidered after thinking it might bring some good discussion or debate.

For those of you who don't already know, I lost a daughter to cancer 13 years ago, which will help you better understand what I'm about to say.

My morning routine upon waking is brushing my teeth, taking care of any calls of nature, showering, and immediately meditating.

During this morning's meditation, a few of my daughter's last words came through to me, specifically the words, "It's so beautiful!" As you could image, this opened a bit of a floodgate. The emotions passed and I returned to my usual meditative state.

Fast forward a few hours, and I happened to glance at today's date on the lower right hand corner of my laptop. 12/11. Today would have been my daughter's 35th birthday. I was entirely ignorant of the date today until that time.

I don't often think of the day my daughter passed, and rarely, if ever, during meditation. Usually memories surround other parts of her life.

So I ask you, denizens of RF, do you think there is something more to this than mere coincidence? Why or why not?

There was a time when 9 times out of 10+1, whenever I looked at my digital watch on my hand, or my computer, the time was 9:11 or 9/11. My mind would immediately go to...
Sorry to hear of your loss.

 

[nPeace]

Your unconscious knows everything - you just can't be conscious of all your knowledge at one time. And, as Sunstone pointed out, your unconscious also keeps track of time, sometimes very precise. How long do you meditate? How do you know when time is up? Do you write grocery lists? If not, how do you remember when you're not aware of it all the time?

Amazing isn't it. It fascinates me.