Cold Fusion: the real issue

[Brickjectivity]

If cold fusion were possible, wouldn't it be dangerous? I mean, couldn't you make heat guns and create bombs in your back yard? Wouldn't that be just too much? Wouldn't every government suppress such technology, and who would suggest not doing so? I mean...you could basically blow up your city with a little bit of know-how.

 

[Revoltingest]

If cold fusion were possible, wouldn't it be dangerous? I mean, couldn't you make heat guns and create bombs in your back yard? Wouldn't that be just too much? Wouldn't every government suppress such technology, and who would suggest not doing so? I mean...you could basically blow up your city with a little bit of know-how.

Cold fusion (if it's possible) is a very low energy yield process.
It's worse than dangerous....it's useless.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Cold fusion (if it's possible) is a very low energy yield process.
It's worse than dangerous....it's useless.

How do I know you aren't just covering up the truth for the government? Do I need to do some calculations or some such?

 

[Revoltingest]

How do I know you aren't just covering up the truth for the government? Do I need to do some calculations or some such?

The problem with Pons's & Fleischmann's work was not just that the energy generated
was vanishingly small & difficult to detect, but also that no one else could replicate it.

 

[JakofHearts]

If cold fusion were possible, wouldn't it be dangerous? I mean, couldn't you make heat guns and create bombs in your back yard? Wouldn't that be just too much? Wouldn't every government suppress such technology, and who would suggest not doing so? I mean...you could basically blow up your city with a little bit of know-how.

Cold fusion though I do not know much about it, is basically a form of grasping energy, and it depends on what that energy can be used for. Einstein influenced the discovery of atomic energy for good, but was as we know used as a weapon. Backyard technological inventions could dramatically change the world, like free energy.

And why wouldn't the government suppress such things? From what I understand they have been for a very long time. Nikola Tesla was radically different from Einstein, but Telsa is claimed to had found a way for free energy to be applied to everybody. However, the government was not pleased with that and defunded Tesla's enterprises.

Another example was an American entrepreneur that invented a car that could run on water. He was offered billions by the oil corporations but turned them down. He was poisoned.

Personally, I find Einstein's science to be outrageously wrong and unproductive to technological advances, and Tesla to more in line with the observable realities that can be tested and repeated.

 

[jeager106]

@JakofHearts
Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeat post!
I had no idea we had a nuclear physicist on board.

 

[jeager106]

From what little I understand about cold fusion, (not much)
is that mainstream science doesn't believe it's even possible.

 

[Brickjectivity]

The problem with Pons's & Fleischmann's work was not just that the energy generated
was vanishingly small & difficult to detect, but also that no one else could replicate it.

Very true. I remember that debacle.

 

[Brickjectivity]

From what little I understand about cold fusion, (not much)
is that mainstream science doesn't believe it's even possible.

The idea is that if you force two hydrogen nuclei together until they become Helium that a lot of energy gets released, but you have to use a lot of energy to press them together, first. So far its just really expensive to get them pushed together. Modern bombs use an atom bomb to 'Ignite' a fusion bomb, but that is very crude and destructive fusion. It isn't controlled fusion. Modern fusion reactors are experimental and rarely make more energy than they use, but it is hoped that they will produce energy and replace other kinds of energy resources.

My observation is that if it is possible to produce fusion reactions easily, it must be very dangerous. You get a lot of energy out of a very small amount of mass.

 

[Onyx]

Personally, I find Einstein's science to be outrageously wrong and unproductive to technological advances, and Tesla to more in line with the observable realities that can be tested and repeated.

There is (rather unfortunate) proof that Einstein was right.

Tesla accomplished amazing things, but that doesn't mean all of his ideas were necessarily correct or practical.

 

[Thief]

If cold fusion were possible, wouldn't it be dangerous? I mean, couldn't you make heat guns and create bombs in your back yard? Wouldn't that be just too much? Wouldn't every government suppress such technology, and who would suggest not doing so? I mean...you could basically blow up your city with a little bit of know-how.

fusion is what the sun does to produce light

not a small event

to do so on this earth.....a crushing force of extreme measure would be needed

last I heard....the magnetic field can do it.....but there is no way to tap the fusion
the field would need a 'faucet'

not to worry.....
when the field is shut off.....the fusion stops
there is no....'cascade'...event

 

[JakofHearts]

There is (rather unfortunate) proof that Einstein was right.

Tesla accomplished amazing things, but that doesn't mean all of his ideas were necessarily correct or practical.

I have to disagree. Tesla for example, did not see light the same way Einstein did. And there are basic experiments one can do to show that light does not travel. It is the simple applications of Telsa's science that have quickly bought headway to technological advancements. For example as I had shown with the 13 year old kid.

Here is an interesting piece on a slightly arrogant, but informative scientist on what light really is.

@jeager106 Yikes I'm not a Nuclear physicists.

 

[Brickjectivity]

He keeps saying light does not have a speed and that it merely has a rate of induction through mediums. This is a semantic difference not really a substantial difference from current models. Maxwell's wave theory of light is understood to be a model so is not an insane assumption but a model only. Time is itself not constant, so speed is just a measurement. The terminology that is convenient is what is used. Time, light and speed are all actors in a play that is still being studied. This is plain in Physics courses right at a bachelor's level or high school, not a secret. In that level of Physics that studies the nature of light and matter, nothing actually has a speed any more than light does; but it is convenient to use that terminology for many purposes. Aether is an idea that comes up now and then, and it can be interesting but has not so far been observed and so far doesn't provide more useful models than wave particle duality models for most purposes. Aether is getting some attention though. There is a new related term called the 'Quantum vacuum' which is one approach to the aether concept, and that may lead to refinements of current models or new models.

In fairness, I am not really suspecting a government cover up of fusion. It is very difficult to conceive of cold fusion technology. I also do not think Tesla is like an alternative to Einstein or Maxwell. He invents a lot, and its true that his idea of a tower could work to harness the difference in electrical potential between the air and the ground. I do not know how well it could work, and he never finishes his experiments with it. To me it doesn't seem better than hydro dams or geothermal power or solar, but I am guessing.

 

[psychoslice]

I personally don't wast my time worrying about what may never happen.

 

[Revoltingest]

Run a car on water?
Ridiculous!
Water corrkodes metal (except for unobtanium), freezes, & can ruin a suede jacket.
So I invented a car that burns air. Air is cheap, relatively pollution free, & is compatible with
all clothing. (It just takes a little gasoline, naptha or diesel fuel to make the air burn.)
But when I approached the auto companies & Big Oil about my invention, they threatened
me with an atomic wedgie and a purple nurple!

 

[Revoltingest]

Very true. I remember that debacle.

You committed that to memory?
This means only one thing....

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Cold fusion, "overunity" generators, psychic powers, Big Foot, and honest politicians.

What do all these things have in common?

 

[Revoltingest]

Cold fusion, "overunity" generators, psychic powers, Big Foot, and honest politicians.

What do all these things have in common?

They're all created by fairy dust in pyramids?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

They're all created by fairy dust in pyramids?

Bingo! But, don't forget that they can only be created during a full moon on a vernal equinox, as well.

 

[Revoltingest]

Bingo! But, don't forget that they can only be created during a full moon on a vernal equinox, as well.

And the virgins....never forget the young fetching virgins.