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Colloidal Silver

dust1n

Zindīq
Anyone know a decent amount about colloidal silver? I wonder if it's worth purchasing, or it works supposed wonders. If I go with it, I'm getting the legit stuff...

http://www.dr-johnson.com/

They got the most powerful stuff, for the best prices. If I get the 50 dollar bottle, we are talking 2000 p.p.m. which I can dilute into a few hundred days worth of supported health. Comments? Is this stuff over blown?
 
dust1n, I would be very, very skeptical of this. It looks like total nonsense. The links for what it calls ' "actual" scientific data ' (quotes in original) lead me on a merry-go-round with no "actual" scientific data. It's very easy to cite "actual" scientific data, you give the name of the authors, the year, the title, and the journal the data was published in.

I am not a medical expert, I am just a student but I am studying biological physics and some biochemistry, I am doing science. I've talked to people who are experts in the medical uses of nanoparticles (all still experimental and not clinically proven, and essentially all geared towards killing cancer), influenza viruses, drugs and vaccines, blood disorders. I have never ever heard of colloidal silver and the website smells to high heaven. I would bet my hat it is a complete scam.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Just by glancing at that site, it looks fake.

I don't care if the website looks flashy, they are trying maximize sells. I want to know if anyone knows anything about colloidal silver outside the website. Lot's of third party references give it amazing reviews, not just this website.
 
Okay. Before there was any better alternative, a silver ion solution was used as an antiseptic. Lots of things will kill bacteria, like a solution with a somewhat high concentration of hydrogen ions or alcohol. It will probably kill your cells, too, which is why you only use it when necessary. Or it might simply cause the strange condition of argyria cited in the Wiki article. But this website is claiming colloidal silver particles ~10 nm across are a cure-all for everything. That's a red flag right there, there is no such product. The article also contradicts itself saying you want silver "Atoms" not "ions", which makes no sense, an ion is an atom, and furthermore a colloidal particle is not an atom but a bunch of atoms. And there's no reason to put scientific-sounding words like "Atoms" or "actual" Laboratory in quotes or capital letters, except to try to look impressive.

dustn1, I know something about atoms, ions, colloidal particles. The "scientific facts" link on the website is incoherent and contains no scientific studies that the product does anything. It's just rambling about how you shouldn't trust all their competitors, it has to be produced in a real Laboratory with double check lists, etc. It's extremely suspicious. It looks like it was written by a fourth grader.

And furthermore, cells uptake nano-sized particles and I don't think the effects of this are fully known. There is research to use gold nano-particles to fight cancer, because tumors will preferentially gather them up and then you can use radiation which heats up the nanoparticles and destroys the cancer cells .... but labs are still working on this, not on human subjects but just on the basic physics of it, it certainly is not yet clinically proven in humans.

I'm telling you, the internet is full of scams and the idea of drinking a daily dose of silver nanoparticles, not even a dilute silver ion solution but big 10 nm nanoparticles, which will enter your cells and we still do not know how that affects cells .... that's scary. Please be cautious!
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Okay. Before there was any better alternative, a silver ion solution was used as an antiseptic. Lots of things will kill bacteria, like a solution with a somewhat high concentration of hydrogen ions or alcohol. It will probably kill your cells, too, which is why you only use it when necessary. Or it might simply cause the strange condition of argyria cited in the Wiki article. But this website is claiming colloidal silver particles ~10 nm across are a cure-all for everything. That's a red flag right there, there is no such product. The article also contradicts itself saying you want silver "Atoms" not "ions", which makes no sense, an ion is an atom, and furthermore a colloidal particle is not an atom but a bunch of atoms. And there's no reason to put scientific-sounding words like "Atoms" or "actual" Laboratory in quotes or capital letters, except to try to look impressive.

dustn1, I know something about atoms, ions, colloidal particles. The "scientific facts" link on the website is incoherent and contains no scientific studies that the product does anything. It's just rambling about how you shouldn't trust all their competitors, it has to be produced in a real Laboratory with double check lists, etc. It's extremely suspicious. It looks like it was written by a fourth grader.

And furthermore, cells uptake nano-sized particles and I don't think the effects of this are fully known. There is research to use gold nano-particles to fight cancer, because tumors will preferentially gather them up and then you can use radiation which heats up the nanoparticles and destroys the cancer cells .... but labs are still working on this, not on human subjects but just on the basic physics of it, it certainly is not yet clinically proven in humans.

I'm telling you, the internet is full of scams and the idea of drinking a daily dose of silver nanoparticles, not even a dilute silver ion solution but big 10 nm nanoparticles, which will enter your cells and we still do not know how that affects cells .... that's scary. Please be cautious!


Very convincing.. thank you for the information, didn't catch the 'ion' / 'atom' switch. Has anybody on this forum used this stuff before?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I don't care if the website looks flashy, they are trying maximize sells. I want to know if anyone knows anything about colloidal silver outside the website. Lot's of third party references give it amazing reviews, not just this website.
Here's what I noticed by just looking at the first page on that link:
-They have a quotation mark fetish.
-The FDA Warning that the product "is not intended to treat, diagnose, or cure, or prevent disease." (Which shows it is indeed NOT proven to cure or prevent disease, such as it claims)
-Nothing is cited.
-It looks like any typical scam "get rich quick" site.

And when I looked around, absolutely nothing is cited. It also fails to mention any possible side effects or complications. I don't know much about the medical uses of silver, but a site that doesn't even appear to have customer reviews can't be credible.
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KatNotKathy

Well-Known Member
I am on a top-of-page roll here!

Yes because Argyria sounds just dandy.

No really, colloidal silver has no tangible health benefits and will literally turn your skin blue. I **** you not.
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But I dunno, maybe you want to slowly become a smurf.
 

Commoner

Headache
Anyone know a decent amount about colloidal silver? I wonder if it's worth purchasing, or it works supposed wonders. If I go with it, I'm getting the legit stuff...

http://www.dr-johnson.com/

They got the most powerful stuff, for the best prices. If I get the 50 dollar bottle, we are talking 2000 p.p.m. which I can dilute into a few hundred days worth of supported health. Comments? Is this stuff over blown?

Ok, seriously, faaaaaake. :eek:
 

ericoh2

******
I am on a top-of-page roll here!

Yes because Argyria sounds just dandy.

No really, colloidal silver has no tangible health benefits and will literally turn your skin blue. I **** you not.
b4yd7r.jpg

20fuxyc.jpg

fdsxzk.jpg


But I dunno, maybe you want to slowly become a smurf.

according to this article, the media hasn't been very honest when it comes to claims of colloidal silver turning your skin blue (what a surprise).

The Blue Man Fraud
 

KatNotKathy

Well-Known Member
That article appears on a site which is trying to sell the stuff. Not an objective source.

Well it is technically right in a sense. Argyria comes from certain silver compounds and it is possible to make a colloidal silver solution out of safe metallic silver. It won't do you any good, but if you're really confident that the solution doesn't contain active silver ions you probably won't come out any worse for wear, if a bit lighter in the wallet.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
They used to use mercury medicinally as well, but I wouldn't ingest the stuff.
My advice, don't be consuming toxic metals, period.
 

ericoh2

******
That article appears on a site which is trying to sell the stuff. Not an objective source.

True, but I think the point they were trying to make is that what he drank was a homemade concoction and not properly prepared colloidal silver. I know little about the stuff so I don't know. However, you would think that there would be multiple ways to prepare it, so just because a couple of cases go wrong, doesn't mean that this stuff doesn't have some benefits. If people were worried about one or two people having complications from a medicine, I doubt there would be any they would want to take. Flu shots come to mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEN5KGwNGeo
 
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