Come and share you God-Concepts here:)

[Alex_G]

A thread to allow everyone to express and discuss what they actually believe when it comes down to 'God'. From mildly agnostic to literal biblical belief to totally unique, i thought it would be interesting and healthy for the forum's extensive 'God debates' if some foundations were laid down like in this thread

I was brought up in a christian methodist chapel eniviroment, where i would regularly read to the people in services. Luckily my parents had no strict beliefs and encouraged me to think for myself and decide what i believed. As a result my beliefs have evolved over my time growing up, but have never been anything more than agnostic in standard. I generally liked the idea that the universe itself was God, rather than God being a controlling point or being outside of it. I later decided that it was of no benefit to bother using God in the viewpoit, and it more than sufficed to stand in awe at the structure of the world. Terming 'god' with it seemed to now belittle the awsomeness of the whole cosmos.

 

[Storm]

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[Alex_G]

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?? i'm not that seasoned remember!

 

[Storm]

I use the "My Replies" function a lot. I was just posting something so I could easily find this thread again.

 

[Alex_G]

ah ok (thats cheating! u replied not lol)

 

[Storm]

OK, so I'm being lazy. Repost:

I believe in what has been called a "living Godiverse." I believe that the universe as we know it is the infinitely complex interaction of three elements: divine matter, divine consciousness, and divine life-force.

As previously stated, I do not believe in the supernatural. I believe that the laws of nature are vital to the well-being of God.

Did you have any questions for me, Alex?

 

[Alex_G]

ye, can u elaborate on these three elements? what are they exactly? why three? inspiration? etc

 

[Storm]

ye, can u elaborate on these three elements? what are they exactly?

Divine matter is all matter. I just think that it's important to emphasize that matter is divine as well, being the body of God.

The divine consciousness is the mind of God, the source and sum of all consciousness in our cosmos.

Divine life-force, is just that. I can't say it any plainer.

why three?

No deliberate reason.

inspiration? etc

I had an extremely intense theophany when I was about 10. Ever since then, I've been obsessed with figuring out "what the bleep was that?" I discovered eclectic neopaganism and was comfortable in it for years, but my beliefs were constantly evolving as I studied theology, comparative religion, and science. A few years ago, I realized that I'd outgrown neopagnism completely, but the roots go deep.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

God is a relationship between the observer and the observed. It is a symbol associated with the creative forces of Existence.

For me, God is the Spirit of Life.

 

[Katzpur]

I generally liked the idea that the universe itself was God, rather than God being a controlling point or being outside of it.

When I hear people make a comment similar to this one, which happens quite often actually, I am at a loss as to what they really mean. Could you explain that concept to me, please. And don't be afraid to dumb it down. I think you're going to have to.

 

[Alex_G]

When I hear people make a comment similar to this one, which happens quite often actually, I am at a loss as to what they really mean. Could you explain that concept to me, please. And don't be afraid to dumb it down. I think you're going to have to.

Well to tackle the problem of the existance of our universe, many people look to the idea of a divine creator (i not being one of them). This though gets them nowhere as it raises the even bigger problem of who made the creator? Whilst still leaving my mind open to the God-concept, the way i got around it was to define God as the universe itself. This way it avoids further crippling questions. The extent of conciousness and control this God has could be variable. Kind of like the personality on a human. The sheer nature of the universe one could say. I left this fruitless thinking behind me though, and now just decide to see the universe for what it is, or what it is as far as my senses allow me to percieve.

 

[Comet]

I believe GOD is that which is all, one, and nothing.

 

[love]

Divine matter is all matter. I just think that it's important to emphasize that matter is divine as well, being the body of God.

The divine consciousness is the mind of God, the source and sum of all consciousness in our cosmos.

Divine life-force, is just that. I can't say it any plainer.


No deliberate reason.


I had an extremely intense theophany when I was about 10. Ever since then, I've been obsessed with figuring out "what the bleep was that?" I discovered eclectic neopaganism and was comfortable in it for years, but my beliefs were constantly evolving as I studied theology, comparative religion, and science. A few years ago, I realized that I'd outgrown neopagnism completely, but the roots go deep.

I don't know what neopaganism is, but I also believe that God is matter, i.e God is all things.
I also believe in Divine consciousness, that holds all things together.
I too believe that God is life.
I believe of all the mass universe God created Man is His own image, with a consciousness superior to all other species.
Although the moon reflects the glorious light on to the earth it does not do it consciously of itself but by the will of God. The moon has no choice.
God created Earth with life abundant.
Such a tiny place in the universe yet with Life sustaining itself as no other known place that exist in the physical realm.
I believe that God has given Man a small vineyard to care for as We choose but We have not done well from the beginning and never will.
Though We know we will all be dust again God has let us also know that our spirit (who we are, what we learn, our good and our not) will live on.
Rivers of blood have flowed because of Man's incompetence.
I believe that God came to us in the flesh and blood and with all power at His disposal (infinite) let His Holy blood, and Holy body pass through the death we shall all encounter.
He showed us the Spirit of Love.
He chose twelve followers who seldom got it right when He was with us. But He sent His spirit into them as He promised and they shook the world.
His Spirit is forever and manifests itself in the hearts of Men who care for His vineyard.
I believe God does not desire warriors who spill blood, but warriors who spread His love in caring for His vineyard.
We may let the thorns get thick but God will not let them prevail.

 

[lunamoth]

I know God because I am.

 

[Ðanisty]

Okay, you asked for it...lol.

I believe in the God of the bible, but I don't believe he's good or kind or loving or benevolent. I believe he's an egomaniacal, selfish, twisted, tyrannical jerk. That's just my opinion though. It's never prevented me from having Christian friends.

 

[ChristineES]

I believe that people make God in their own image. People think about what is best (or sometimes worst) and put that into God. God is greater than we can even imagine, so we, as people, have to make Him into something we can actually experience.
I know it's wrong, but sometimes I will get angry when something isn't right. My oldest son has autism, and I would sometimes get into what my husband used to call "pity pot" and think things like "God is punishing me" or "I try to live right, yet I get a autistic child while other people get normal kids" and stuff like that. I don't do it much now but I did for a long time. I repented of that, but I still feel guilty because I know that God did not cause my son to be handicapped. The point is that I put it on God when that unfair.

 

[rojse]

Although I am an atheist, I have been having a lot of thoughs about the nature of God, should he actually exist. Currently, I have had no experiences that would indicate the presence of any God, let alone what his nature is, but from what I see happening in the real world, I do not suspect that this nature is wholly benevolent.

If God existed, I think that he works in two possible ways. The first is that he enjoys inflicting incidents on us. These incidents are either pleasurable or painful. From this, he gains information about us as a collective group, in terms of our reactions and responses.

The second is that he studies us dispassionately, trying to learn everything he can about us, and doesn't really care what happens to us or trying to save us. It is a more passive version of the first one, just where God doesn't actively intervene in causing accidents.

Both of those beliefs in God solve some of the major hurdles that I have with accepting religious ideas, not explained by the presence of a loving God. It helps explain pain and suffering when people are not involved, for example.

There will probably be a million arguments against my two ideas here, but that's my thoughts.

 

[rojse]

Divine matter is all matter. I just think that it's important to emphasize that matter is divine as well, being the body of God.

The divine consciousness is the mind of God, the source and sum of all consciousness in our cosmos.

Divine life-force, is just that. I can't say it any plainer.


No deliberate reason.


I had an extremely intense theophany when I was about 10. Ever since then, I've been obsessed with figuring out "what the bleep was that?" I discovered eclectic neopaganism and was comfortable in it for years, but my beliefs were constantly evolving as I studied theology, comparative religion, and science. A few years ago, I realized that I'd outgrown neopagnism completely, but the roots go deep.

Is your belief that all bodies of matter have a personal identity? Am I correct in surmising that?

 

[Willamena]

Well to tackle the problem of the existance of our universe...

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see a problem there.

 

[Hema]

God is love. God is both formed and formless. Everything from the physical universe manifested from Brahman - that Absolute Reality. Thus, all that is formed is God (Saguna) but since God is not limited to anything, God is not limited to the manifested universe. God is also formless (Nirguna).