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Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Is your belief that all bodies of matter have a personal identity? Am I correct in surmising that?
I'm assuming here that by "personal identity" you mean an individual consciousness similar to our own. Correct me if I'm wrong.

No, not exactly. I believe that individuated consciousness is dependent on complexity and probably life-as-we-know-it. I believe that this is the purpose of life, to temporarily break apart the divine consciousness that it may come to know itself.

Did that make any sense at all? I haven't had my coffee yet.... :coffee:
 

Alex_G

Enlightner of the Senses
sorry if this seems a bit sharp a response above:p (not what this topic is supposed to be about)

You can keep the God-concepts coming :)
 

capslockf9

Active Member
Ultimately the base component of matter is nothing. A resonance or energy perbutions is the source of this illusion. Upon close examination of anything you will see it dissolve into nothing. There is nothing out there and yet that is where consciousness jumps out off. If you want to call it empty space you can but there is really no such thing as empty space, the whole field of the universe is teeming with energy pertubation.
We flicker in and out of existence but our eyes can't see that fast. And we mistakedly see solid objects. This illusion has produced many misconceptions in the human mind.
The ego is a rudimentry force concerned with survival. This nervous activity has erroneously produced nationality, race, religion and other ideas.
A Great Spirt in the field beckons to all. Find and connect to that consciousness to see that nationality, race, religion are all UNTRUTHS.
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
An athiest may find it easier to believe that matter created itself than to believe that a being created it all, regardless of which, we are still here so even in an athiest's view, something must have caused it all.

Trying to figure out who made God is not a bigger problem at all. God made God. I could give you a very long and detailed explanation of it but basically this is it - When a being evolves to the point where it can do anything it can then create a situation that causes it's own formation.

God is the universe but the universe is just a pond in an ocean and God is the ocean. God is also a sentient being. The Prime Creator. First Cause. First Source. All That Is.

God inflicts no pain and has never punished, murdered, tempted, tortured, or harmed any life in any way. These preposterous ideas come from ancient tribal holy men who did not understand the complicated world they lived in so they blamed mysterious things, like the wind, on God.

You have complete free will, do with it as you choose. Evolve, regress, it's your choice. God will not interfere, it would be against the purpose of the earth. If you don't like it that He does not help you, tough. The body is nothing, it is insignificant, it is meant to wear out and die. It is not you anyway.
 

ayani

member
i believe that God is both greater than, and manifest in His creation. i believe that He is within us, and is in part that within us which propels us to seek, to love, and to reconcile with one another. i often don't understand how this works (and the less i think about it the better) but i believe that God, other, and self are inextricably linked, and are One, yet with God still greater than that within which He is present. kind of like a three-in-one, a trinity. kind of like panentheism.
 

capslockf9

Active Member
I mostly agree.
The resonance that produces the illusion has a source. But I do not Know what that source is. The word God has infamous conotations; so I prefer not to use it. Great Spirit is more fitting name for that life force. And yes it does not want your worship or need it.
The mind or consciousness what ever you want to call it come out from this field. OK you may say mind and or consciousness is produced in the brain; but the brain matter is also not really there. All the quarks and gluons are somekind of vibration that causes this illusion. All matter and mind originate from this field. This consciousness is our nature.
The ego will always interfere and confuse any mind that seeks out this truth.
 

capslockf9

Active Member
I do not mean ego as a personality trait; although it influences The word ego has been greatly misused. The meaning of ego is erroneuosly taken to mean-conceit or self centered.
The word ego as Dr. Freud first defined is : the sense of self. The human is the only animal that has an ego.
Our nervous activity has out produced other animals in survival tactics. Basically it's the fight or run syndrome which is common to all animals. But our brain has taken this fear and come up with ideas to further insure our survival.
These ideas have seperate us from "The Great Spirit" and from each other. This nervsous activity has drawn line for nations, religions, race, and other myths.
 

Angelfire

Member
God is love. God is both formed and formless. Everything from the physical universe manifested from Brahman - that Absolute Reality. Thus, all that is formed is God (Saguna) but since God is not limited to anything, God is not limited to the manifested universe. God is also formless (Nirguna).



I fully concur.



peace
 

mcteethinator

Idiosyncratic Muslim
Allah/God is one. It is separate from the universe. It does not have an partners or children. it does not have a gender. it is simply "It". It's simply a force that is so vast it is hard to explain in human terms.

I think a lot of Muslims make the mistake of calling Allah "He". However, "He" does sound a lot better then "It", which makes Allah sound tiny, when in fact, Allah is the exact opposite. It's larger then the entire universe, it's expanse has no bounds.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
God is a name some people give to what they experience in the absence of perceiving the world as divided into discrete things.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
God is love. God is both formed and formless. Everything from the physical universe manifested from Brahman - that Absolute Reality. Thus, all that is formed is God (Saguna) but since God is not limited to anything, God is not limited to the manifested universe. God is also formless (Nirguna).

Hema explained it very well...This does not make other religions wrong... it is simply that we can perceive God in many ways.
 

powder21

Always Changing
I like to believe that "God" is something that can not be understood or comprehended. Having a Christian background, I typically use that "image" to define God, but I know when I pray that I am not necessarily praying to Jehovah, but to whatever is out there watching over me. I believe that everyone's image of God is correct and tries to define the undefinable because it is so hard to believe in something without definition. Somebody posted the following and I quoted it because I liked it so much: "There is the God that underlies reality and the images we produce to try to explain that." I also like very much the idea that God is the amazing underlying "connection" connecting everything in the universe. When you see the unbelievable complexity of the universe intertwine with it's simplicity. That, in a sense, is God. I'm not sure if that makes any sense because I'm typically not very articulate when it comes to my thoughts on God, but I hope someone understands what I'm saying :)

Edit: I also read a little about panentheism, and I tend to agree.
 

DavyCrocket2003

Well-Known Member
I really like this definition:
45 The earth rolls upon her wings, and the sun giveth his light by day, and the moon giveth her light by night, and the stars also give their light, as they roll upon their wings in their glory, in the midst of the power of God.
46 Unto what shall I liken these kingdoms, that ye may understand?
47 Behold, all these are kingdoms, and any man who hath seen any or the least of these hath seen God moving in his majesty and power.
48 I say unto you, he hath seen him; nevertheless, he who came unto his own was not comprehended.
49 The light shineth in darkness, and the darkness comprehendeth it not; nevertheless, the day shall come when you shall comprehend even God, being quickened in him and by him.
50 Then shall ye know that ye have seen me, that I am, and that I am the true light that is in you, and that you are in me; otherwise ye could not abound.

Wow, so profound.
 

~Amin~

God is the King
I think a lot of Muslims make the mistake of calling Allah "He". However, "He" does sound a lot better then "It", which makes Allah sound tiny, when in fact, Allah is the exact opposite. It's larger then the entire universe, it's expanse has no bounds.
Peace be unto you
I learn so much from your statements,
but in the Glorious Qur'an, Allah Almighty
refers to the the sun as a he 91,1
and in the second verse refers to the moon as
a she,and further in the arabic language the
word (kursiu) or chair is a he and a table is a she
so my point is this he is metaphorical, and im
sure your well aware of these points.
Salamu alaikum.
 

rojse

RF Addict
The most interesting concept of God that I have ever came across is in Olaf Stapledon's Star Maker, quite possibly my favourite novel. The narrator of the story is a man who finds himself exploring the cosmos, meeting many different races, and trying to gain an understanding of the creator of the Universe, the Star Maker.

Without ruining all of the ideas presented in the novel, the Star Maker continually constructs universes with different underlying laws to see how they work, and slowly improves his understanding and comprehension. He has no concern for the welfare of the experiments that reside within it, nor does he even care about the being that was able to perceive his presence or the rudiments of thought.

Here is a link should you wish to read: Star Maker
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
God is love. God is both formed and formless. Everything from the physical universe manifested from Brahman - that Absolute Reality. Thus, all that is formed is God (Saguna) but since God is not limited to anything, God is not limited to the manifested universe. God is also formless (Nirguna).

That is my belief (in essence); the wording may be slightly different, but we believe the same.
 
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