Coming out as creationists: fear.

[SkepticThinker]

Not really. It is just the programming, never examined, never questioned.

It's frightening.

 

[Audie]

It's frightening.

Things would go way downhill, way fast if such were
in control, not a marginalized cult

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Not really. It is just the programming, never examined, never questioned.

“What we call rational grounds for our beliefs are often extremely irrational attempts to justify our instincts.” --Thomas Henry Huxley

 

[Deeje]

I just have to shake my head at all this fear mongering.....those big bad JW's you have so much to fear from people who value morality.....do you?

With all the evil things happening in the world...it's JW's who are the root of all evil. Really?

Sometimes I wonder what planet y'all live on. We teach our kids to live moral lives and we are the enemy? Your daughters are not raped by Jehovah's Witnesses.....your houses are not robbed by Jehovah's Witnesses....the jails are not full of Jehovah's Witnesses out of control on drunken or drug crazed rampages.....we don't carry weapons, so your family members are not shot by Jehovah's Witnesses....and yet it appeares as if we are some sort of threat to society??? How about cleaning up your own backyard?

We are not against education, but prefer to gain it in a less immoral atmosphere...and you have a problem with that? Why is that your business?

There was a suggestion that tradesmen are some kind of mentally deficient low-lifes.....what a disgusting thing to say!......try living without them. I would rather keep company with a humble worker than with some spoilt rich snob who has way too high an opinion of themselves based on their education or earning capacity. (that is a very common Asian mindset actually)

In this world, if you are a jerk and you have money, then all you are is a rich jerk.....if you are educated, you are simply an educated jerk.....any superiority is all in your own head....so eat, drink and be merry.....what do you have to look forward to?

You gain your opinions of us from ex-JW's and happily gobble up the dirt expressed in one very biased side of the story. Ever been on the receiving end of an "ex's" opinion of you? Aren't they going to paint themselves as the victim and you as the bad guy.....?

For goodness sake wake up and listen to your judgmental selves.
Can a judge make a decision on guilt or innocence by hearing only one distorted side of a case? Would you like to be the accused in that instance? Would you like people to twist everything you say? There are a stack of slaughtered strawmen lying in a heap on these pages. Are y'all feeling victorious? It's a hollow victory people.....the strawmen were already dead when you attacked them.

You wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you.... and what is even sadder is that you don't even care. Mob mentality is an ugly thing.

This thread has been derailed enough. If you want to participate in a JW witch hunt? Go for it...... I'm done here. There will be a few more added to my ignore list.

 

[Jose Fly]

I just have to shake my head at all this fear mongering.....those big bad JW's you have so much to fear from people who value morality.....do you?

If Deeje equates criticism with fear, then I guess that means she is absolutely terrified of science.

 

[Audie]

What if one of you wants to be a lawyer or a doctor, or something else that requires a post-secondary education??

I understand that the University of Western Samoa has
correspondence courses.

 

[Audie]

I just have to shake my head at all this fear mongering.....those big bad JW's you have so much to fear from people who value morality.....do you?

With all the evil things happening in the world...it's JW's who are the root of all evil. Really?

Sometimes I wonder what planet y'all live on. We teach our kids to live moral lives and we are the enemy? Your daughters are not raped by Jehovah's Witnesses.....your houses are not robbed by Jehovah's Witnesses....the jails are not full of Jehovah's Witnesses out of control on drunken or drug crazed rampages.....we don't carry weapons, so your family members are not shot by Jehovah's Witnesses....and yet it appeares as if we are some sort of threat to society??? How about cleaning up your own backyard?

We are not against education, but prefer to gain it in a less immoral atmosphere...and you have a problem with that? Why is that your business?

There was a suggestion that tradesmen are some kind of mentally deficient low-lifes.....what a disgusting thing to say!......try living without them. I would rather keep company with a humble worker than with some spoilt rich snob who has way too high an opinion of themselves based on their education or earning capacity. (that is a very common Asian mindset actually)

In this world, if you are a jerk and you have money, then all you are is a rich jerk.....if you are educated, you are simply an educated jerk.....any superiority is all in your own head....so eat, drink and be merry.....what do you have to look forward to?

You gain your opinions of us from ex-JW's and happily gobble up the dirt expressed in one very biased side of the story. Ever been on the receiving end of an "ex's" opinion of you? Aren't they going to paint themselves as the victim and you as the bad guy.....?

For goodness sake wake up and listen to your judgmental selves.
Can a judge make a decision on guilt or innocence by hearing only one distorted side of a case? Would you like to be the accused in that instance? Would you like people to twist everything you say? There are a stack of slaughtered strawmen lying in a heap on these pages. Are y'all feeling victorious? It's a hollow victory people.....the strawmen were already dead when you attacked them.

You wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you.... and what is even sadder is that you don't even care. Mob mentality is an ugly thing.

This thread has been derailed enough. If you want to participate in a JW witch hunt? Go for it...... I'm done here. There will be a few more added to my ignore list.

"The JWs are the root of all evil" Not on this planet.

What nonsense. What a credibility- killer.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

The facts about JW do all the beating, we just call attention to them.

The JWs attack with falsehoods, distortions, misrepresentations.


ETA Calling attn also to improper use of the "funny" icon

You are getting your info on JW’s from a site rife with ex-JW’s?

That’s like asking Judas Iscariot about Jesus Christ!

 

[Audie]

You are getting your info on JW’s from a site rife with ex-JW’s?

That’s like asking Judas Iscariot about Jesus Christ!

Oh, perhaps it is like that, that an ex jw would not
give a balanced impression. I dont think current ones do!
I'd sure nor rely on them.
But then I know better than to do one-source.

And, the whistle blower is of a courageous tradition.
And who would know better about a cult than
an escapee.

In the event, most of my impression is from
personal encounters. I invited one to come in
one time. I've read their literature. Etc.

Their attack on science is typical of creationist
attacks and I described that accurately,
as per my own observations.

Do you think I've a mistaken impression
on something? Plz correct me if so.

 

[ecco]

You gain your opinions of us from ex-JW's and happily gobble up the dirt expressed in one very biased side of the story.

Actually, I've never been to a website of an ex-JW. I've never spoken to an ex-JW. Most of what I've learned about JW has come from the posters on this thread. The actual real life JWs themselves.

I've found deceit, evasion and disdain for science. I've found people who grossly exaggerate the bad in others while ignoring the shortcomings of themselves and their organization.

 

[Skreeper]

I just have to shake my head at all this fear mongering.....those big bad JW's you have so much to fear from people who value morality.....do you?

With all the evil things happening in the world...it's JW's who are the root of all evil. Really?

Sometimes I wonder what planet y'all live on. We teach our kids to live moral lives and we are the enemy? Your daughters are not raped by Jehovah's Witnesses.....your houses are not robbed by Jehovah's Witnesses....the jails are not full of Jehovah's Witnesses out of control on drunken or drug crazed rampages.....we don't carry weapons, so your family members are not shot by Jehovah's Witnesses....and yet it appeares as if we are some sort of threat to society??? How about cleaning up your own backyard?

We are not against education, but prefer to gain it in a less immoral atmosphere...and you have a problem with that? Why is that your business?

There was a suggestion that tradesmen are some kind of mentally deficient low-lifes.....what a disgusting thing to say!......try living without them. I would rather keep company with a humble worker than with some spoilt rich snob who has way too high an opinion of themselves based on their education or earning capacity. (that is a very common Asian mindset actually)

In this world, if you are a jerk and you have money, then all you are is a rich jerk.....if you are educated, you are simply an educated jerk.....any superiority is all in your own head....so eat, drink and be merry.....what do you have to look forward to?

You gain your opinions of us from ex-JW's and happily gobble up the dirt expressed in one very biased side of the story. Ever been on the receiving end of an "ex's" opinion of you? Aren't they going to paint themselves as the victim and you as the bad guy.....?

For goodness sake wake up and listen to your judgmental selves.
Can a judge make a decision on guilt or innocence by hearing only one distorted side of a case? Would you like to be the accused in that instance? Would you like people to twist everything you say? There are a stack of slaughtered strawmen lying in a heap on these pages. Are y'all feeling victorious? It's a hollow victory people.....the strawmen were already dead when you attacked them.

You wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you.... and what is even sadder is that you don't even care. Mob mentality is an ugly thing.

This thread has been derailed enough. If you want to participate in a JW witch hunt? Go for it...... I'm done here. There will be a few more added to my ignore list.

Yes, JW are the enemy. You are part of an extremist cult that needs to be outlawed. Your views are a danger to society and the progress of humanity in general.

But that is not all, your organisation is as corrupt as the catholic church as seen here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255

There are countless reports of the abuse and insanity that goes on in your cult and it really isn't that hard to find.

Jehovah's Witness Palmer Congregation Sexual Abuse Investigation - FaithLeaks Wiki

Your cult destroys families and abuses children and it needs to be stopped.

 

[Audie]

Actually, I've never been to a website of an ex-JW. I've never spoken to an ex-JW. Most of what I've learned about JW has come from the posters on this thread. The actual real life JWs themselves.

I've found deceit, evasion and disdain for science. I've found people who grossly exaggerate the bad in others while ignoring the shortcomings of themselves and their organization.

Hmm, two in a row saying those who find fault with the cult
go to biased ex-jw for info.

 

[ecco]

Hmm, two in a row saying those who find fault with the cult
go to biased ex-jw for info.

I think you misread my comments. I did not "go to biased ex-jw for info".

I stated...

Actually, I've never been to a website of an ex-JW. I've never spoken to an ex-JW. Most of what I've learned about JW has come from the posters on this thread. The actual real life JWs themselves.

I've found deceit, evasion and disdain for science. I've found people who grossly exaggerate the bad in others while ignoring the shortcomings of themselves and their organization.

 

[Audie]

I think you misread my comments. I did not "go to biased ex-jw for info".

I stated...

ha, you missed what I said. i was likewise accosted with the idea
that I went to disgurntled ex jw for info.

Which I did not do either.

 

[Jose Fly]

You are getting your info on JW’s from a site rife with ex-JW’s?

That’s like asking Judas Iscariot about Jesus Christ!

Or asking Jehovah's Witnesses about science.