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Coming to the Father

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
so how important is the figure jesus; if the ultimate goal is coming to the father? or oneness?


John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
 
but that would be the understanding of a monist. no one comes to the father except as a son. call no one father on earth? when you pray, pray "Our Father who art......."?

how do you like me now?
If you are making a point youll have to explain.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
so how important is the figure jesus; if the ultimate goal is coming to the father? or oneness?


John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Where's mom?

I'm mama's darling boy.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
If you are making a point youll have to explain.
i require mercy, not sacrifice. service to self types want sacrifice.

you are to pray Our Father, not his father.

acts 17:28

For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
so how important is the figure jesus; if the ultimate goal is coming to the father? or oneness?


John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Jesus showed us the right way to be human. Live, love, give and be in an authentic manner.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Jesus showed us the right way to be human. Live, love, give and be in an authentic manner.
more so the right way to be reasonable, mental = spiritual
 

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WalterTrull

Godfella
Where's mom?
Ahh... The earth seems our mother. Also created by Him. Have you noticed how we walk handhold to handhold. We'll leave mom's cooking eventually. Unfortunately, some of us never want to leave. I look forward to being able to walk without holding on to something.
 

soulsurvivor

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
so how important is the figure jesus; if the ultimate goal is coming to the father? or oneness?


John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
This is not specific to the person of Jesus, but it is true that to get to the Father, all human beings have to go through the Son.

When the Second Coming occurs, it will not Jesus who returns but a different Son. But it will still be true that we all have to go through this Son to get to the Father.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
This is not specific to the person of Jesus, but it is true that to get to the Father, all human beings have to go through the Son.

When the Second Coming occurs, it will not Jesus who returns but a different Son. But it will still be true that we all have to go through this Son to get to the Father.
all things created are the son, the begotten. god isn't exclusively a man. so light, or logos is the first begotten.

john 1:4 explains that all men come from this one in the beginning but obviously all things come from light that manifest as light matter/energy


man is considered to be a beast in some aspects. god isn't a begotten thing itself.


so a monist is aware that the realization must come through the great I AM, or the journey is inward through self and recognizing all as one Spirit.
 
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