Common in Religions

[Konstantin]

The most concise statement about the unity of religions:

Do not harm others, be moderate in your desires, be disciplined, study spiritual literature, seek God.

Quote from Haidakhan Babaji:

... all religions lead to the One God.

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I have made a comparison in the form of a table.

The goal is not to increase the debate about the details, but to find common ground. There are differences in religions, but, as a rule, in not the most important provisions. The discrepancies are explained by the fact that the teachings arose at different times in different countries.

Further are the excerpts from the table in the text version.

Samsara​

In Christianity.

~ Consequences of original sin, ~ Tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Eating the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a separation from the Absolute and independent actions and the search for truth. After the merger (return), the knowledge of good and evil no longer occurs, but there are only right actions after submission to the will of higher forces. (What Ramalinga and Yogananda are talking about).


In Islam

"The life of this world is merely an illusory enjoyment.". (Sura 3, verse 185).

Samsara is a cycle of birth and death, full of suffering due to desires and temptations.

Samadhi​

In Christianity. Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)". Samadhi is merging with the Absolute. Jesus must have been in a similar state.

In Islam. "Verily, we belong to Allah and to Him we will return." (Sura 2, verse 156).

Karma​

Christianity.

"He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully". (2 Corinthians 9:6).

"For they sow the wind and they reap the whirlwind." (Hosea 8:7).


Islam. Sawab is a reward that Allah will give in the next life for good, virtuous and charitable deeds in earthly life.

Prayers​

In Hinduism and Buddhism: japa.

In Islam: Dhikr.

Hell​

In Hinduism: the lower lokas, in which evil spirits live. For example, Pishacha-loka, Rakshasa-loka.

In Islam: Jahannam.

In Buddhism: Naraka.

​

Paradise​

In Hinduism: Higher lokas (Ananda-loka, Rudra-loka), etc.

(More about lokas - at about the middle of the page).

Quotes:

The only experience left here is bliss. | ... Here he comes to the realization of the cosmic good, the essence of which is truth, and the form is beauty.

In Islam: Jannah.

In Buddhism: Sukhavati.

10 commandments (in Christianity)​

In Hinduism: yamas and niyama. (The match is not complete.)

In Islam, they are found in various places in the scriptures.

In Buddhism: Five precepts, Noble Eightfold Path.

Some examples​

Hinduism. Ahimsa is non-violence.

Christianity. Thou shalt not kill.

Islam. "Do not take a ˹human˺ life — made sacred by Allah — except with ˹legal˺ right." (Al-An'am, 6:151).

Buddhism. Abstention from killing living beings.



Hinduism. Satya - truthfulness.

Christianity. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Islam. “...those who do not give false testimony” (Surah Furqan, 25:72).

Buddhism. Abstention from speaking lies (falsehood).



Hinduism. Achourya - non-appropriation of someone else's (non-stealing);

Christianity. Thou shalt not steal..

Islam. "in the Qur'an Allah, describing pious people says: “nor will they steal”. (Surah Mumtahanah, 60:12).

Buddhism. Abstention from theft.



Hinduism. Brahmacharya - chastity

Christianity. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Islam. "Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils)." (Surah Al-Isra, 17:32).

Buddhism. Abstention from sexual misconduct.

Thy will be done... (in Christianity, Matthew 6:9-13)​

Hinduism. Mantra "Om Namah Shivaya (One of the possible translations: "Thy will be done").

Islam. Everything is the will of Allah (Inshallah). "And never say about anything: "I shall certainly do this tomorrow" (but say) "unless Allah should will it." 18:23, 24.

Omnipotence of God​

In Islam. "If Allah helps you none shall prevail over you; if He forsakes you then who can help you? It is in Allah that the believers should put their trust." (Sura 3, verse 160)

In Hinduism, this idea is expressed in the Mahabharata. God (Krishna) asked the belligerents what they choose: to one He will give all His weapons, to the side of others He will take the side himself. The negative side chose weapons and lost.

In Christianity. "... (God) is not only much-powerful or great-powerful, but also all-powerful..." (Saint Mark of Ephesus, "Essay on the Jesus Prayer").

Omnipresence​

Hinduism. "Everything rests in Me, as beads strung on a thread." Bhagavad Gita, 7.7.

Christianity. "Whither shall I from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, thou art there. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea. Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me." (Psalms 139:7-10)

Islam. "Oh, verily, unto God belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth!" (Sura 10, verse 55)".

Non-attachment to matter and concentration on the high​

Hinduism.

"Those who are not attached to external sense pleasures realize divine bliss in the self. Being united with God through yog, they experience unending happiness." Bhagavad Gita, 5.21.


Christianity.

"But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." (Matthew 6:33).

"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:19-21).


Islam. "And whatever thing you [people] have been given - it is [only for] the enjoyment of worldly life and its adornment. And what is with Allah is better and more lasting." (Qur'an 28:60)


Buddhism. The cause of suffering is (earthly) desires.




Note.

Buddhism does not talk about God, but Buddhists strive for about the same things as in other religions: enlightenment, liberation. Through the development of noble qualities and spiritual practices.

 

[Trailblazer]

"Do not harm others, be moderate in your desires, be disciplined, study spiritual literature, seek God."

That'd be great if religious people stopped there instead of talking about all their religious dogma.
It would be great if religious people could find common ground instead of arguing over who is right.

 

[Konstantin]

"Do not harm others, be moderate in your desires, be disciplined, study spiritual literature, seek God."

That'd be great if religious people stopped there instead of talking about all their religious dogma.
It would be great if religious people could find common ground instead of arguing over who is right.

I completely agree.

 

[Jedster]

"Do not harm others, be moderate in your desires, be disciplined, study spiritual literature, seek God."

That'd be great if religious people stopped there instead of talking about all their religious dogma.
It would be great if religious people could find common ground instead of arguing over who is right.

Quite honestly TB, the only place I see this is on the internet.

 

[ppp]

The most concise statement about the unity of religions:




Quote from Haidakhan Babaji:


***



I have made a comparison in the form of a table.

The goal is not to increase the debate about the details, but to find common ground. There are differences in religions, but, as a rule, in not the most important provisions. The discrepancies are explained by the fact that the teachings arose at different times in different countries.

Further are the excerpts from the table in the text version.

Samsara​

In Christianity.

~ Consequences of original sin, ~ Tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Eating the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a separation from the Absolute and independent actions and the search for truth. After the merger (return), the knowledge of good and evil no longer occurs, but there are only right actions after submission to the will of higher forces. (What Ramalinga and Yogananda are talking about).


In Islam

"The life of this world is merely an illusory enjoyment.". (Sura 3, verse 185).

Samsara is a cycle of birth and death, full of suffering due to desires and temptations.

Samadhi​

In Christianity. Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)". Samadhi is merging with the Absolute. Jesus must have been in a similar state.

In Islam. "Verily, we belong to Allah and to Him we will return." (Sura 2, verse 156).

Karma​

Christianity.

"He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully". (2 Corinthians 9:6).

"For they sow the wind and they reap the whirlwind." (Hosea 8:7).


Islam. Sawab is a reward that Allah will give in the next life for good, virtuous and charitable deeds in earthly life.

Prayers​

In Hinduism and Buddhism: japa.

In Islam: Dhikr.

Hell​

In Hinduism: the lower lokas, in which evil spirits live. For example, Pishacha-loka, Rakshasa-loka.

In Islam: Jahannam.

In Buddhism: Naraka.

​

Paradise​

In Hinduism: Higher lokas (Ananda-loka, Rudra-loka), etc.

(More about lokas - at about the middle of the page).

Quotes:




In Islam: Jannah.

In Buddhism: Sukhavati.

10 commandments (in Christianity)​

In Hinduism: yamas and niyama. (The match is not complete.)

In Islam, they are found in various places in the scriptures.

In Buddhism: Five precepts, Noble Eightfold Path.

Some examples​

Hinduism. Ahimsa is non-violence.

Christianity. Thou shalt not kill.

Islam. "Do not take a ˹human˺ life — made sacred by Allah — except with ˹legal˺ right." (Al-An'am, 6:151).

Buddhism. Abstention from killing living beings.



Hinduism. Satya - truthfulness.

Christianity. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Islam. “...those who do not give false testimony” (Surah Furqan, 25:72).

Buddhism. Abstention from speaking lies (falsehood).



Hinduism. Achourya - non-appropriation of someone else's (non-stealing);

Christianity. Thou shalt not steal..

Islam. "in the Qur'an Allah, describing pious people says: “nor will they steal”. (Surah Mumtahanah, 60:12).

Buddhism. Abstention from theft.



Hinduism. Brahmacharya - chastity

Christianity. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Islam. "Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils)." (Surah Al-Isra, 17:32).

Buddhism. Abstention from sexual misconduct.

Thy will be done... (in Christianity, Matthew 6:9-13)​

Hinduism. Mantra "Om Namah Shivaya (One of the possible translations: "Thy will be done").

Islam. Everything is the will of Allah (Inshallah). "And never say about anything: "I shall certainly do this tomorrow" (but say) "unless Allah should will it." 18:23, 24.

Omnipotence of God​

In Islam. "If Allah helps you none shall prevail over you; if He forsakes you then who can help you? It is in Allah that the believers should put their trust." (Sura 3, verse 160)

In Hinduism, this idea is expressed in the Mahabharata. God (Krishna) asked the belligerents what they choose: to one He will give all His weapons, to the side of others He will take the side himself. The negative side chose weapons and lost.

In Christianity. "... (God) is not only much-powerful or great-powerful, but also all-powerful..." (Saint Mark of Ephesus, "Essay on the Jesus Prayer").

Omnipresence​

Hinduism. "Everything rests in Me, as beads strung on a thread." Bhagavad Gita, 7.7.

Christianity. "Whither shall I from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, thou art there. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea. Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me." (Psalms 139:7-10)

Islam. "Oh, verily, unto God belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth!" (Sura 10, verse 55)".

Non-attachment to matter and concentration on the high​

Hinduism.

"Those who are not attached to external sense pleasures realize divine bliss in the self. Being united with God through yog, they experience unending happiness." Bhagavad Gita, 5.21.


Christianity.

"But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." (Matthew 6:33).

"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:19-21).


Islam. "And whatever thing you [people] have been given - it is [only for] the enjoyment of worldly life and its adornment. And what is with Allah is better and more lasting." (Qur'an 28:60)


Buddhism. The cause of suffering is (earthly) desires.




Note.

Buddhism does not talk about God, but Buddhists strive for about the same things as in other religions: enlightenment, liberation. Through the development of noble qualities and spiritual practices.

This is only true if you ignore all of the counterexamples and numerous points of explicit conflict between those religions.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Love ye all religions and all races with a love that is true and sincere and show that love through deeds

Abdul-Baha

 

[Echogem222]

The most concise statement about the unity of religions:




Quote from Haidakhan Babaji:


***



I have made a comparison in the form of a table.

The goal is not to increase the debate about the details, but to find common ground. There are differences in religions, but, as a rule, in not the most important provisions. The discrepancies are explained by the fact that the teachings arose at different times in different countries.

Further are the excerpts from the table in the text version.

Samsara​

In Christianity.

~ Consequences of original sin, ~ Tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Eating the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a separation from the Absolute and independent actions and the search for truth. After the merger (return), the knowledge of good and evil no longer occurs, but there are only right actions after submission to the will of higher forces. (What Ramalinga and Yogananda are talking about).


In Islam

"The life of this world is merely an illusory enjoyment.". (Sura 3, verse 185).

Samsara is a cycle of birth and death, full of suffering due to desires and temptations.

Samadhi​

In Christianity. Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)". Samadhi is merging with the Absolute. Jesus must have been in a similar state.

In Islam. "Verily, we belong to Allah and to Him we will return." (Sura 2, verse 156).

Karma​

Christianity.

"He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully". (2 Corinthians 9:6).

"For they sow the wind and they reap the whirlwind." (Hosea 8:7).


Islam. Sawab is a reward that Allah will give in the next life for good, virtuous and charitable deeds in earthly life.

Prayers​

In Hinduism and Buddhism: japa.

In Islam: Dhikr.

Hell​

In Hinduism: the lower lokas, in which evil spirits live. For example, Pishacha-loka, Rakshasa-loka.

In Islam: Jahannam.

In Buddhism: Naraka.

​

Paradise​

In Hinduism: Higher lokas (Ananda-loka, Rudra-loka), etc.

(More about lokas - at about the middle of the page).

Quotes:




In Islam: Jannah.

In Buddhism: Sukhavati.

10 commandments (in Christianity)​

In Hinduism: yamas and niyama. (The match is not complete.)

In Islam, they are found in various places in the scriptures.

In Buddhism: Five precepts, Noble Eightfold Path.

Some examples​

Hinduism. Ahimsa is non-violence.

Christianity. Thou shalt not kill.

Islam. "Do not take a ˹human˺ life — made sacred by Allah — except with ˹legal˺ right." (Al-An'am, 6:151).

Buddhism. Abstention from killing living beings.



Hinduism. Satya - truthfulness.

Christianity. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Islam. “...those who do not give false testimony” (Surah Furqan, 25:72).

Buddhism. Abstention from speaking lies (falsehood).



Hinduism. Achourya - non-appropriation of someone else's (non-stealing);

Christianity. Thou shalt not steal..

Islam. "in the Qur'an Allah, describing pious people says: “nor will they steal”. (Surah Mumtahanah, 60:12).

Buddhism. Abstention from theft.



Hinduism. Brahmacharya - chastity

Christianity. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Islam. "Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils)." (Surah Al-Isra, 17:32).

Buddhism. Abstention from sexual misconduct.

Thy will be done... (in Christianity, Matthew 6:9-13)​

Hinduism. Mantra "Om Namah Shivaya (One of the possible translations: "Thy will be done").

Islam. Everything is the will of Allah (Inshallah). "And never say about anything: "I shall certainly do this tomorrow" (but say) "unless Allah should will it." 18:23, 24.

Omnipotence of God​

In Islam. "If Allah helps you none shall prevail over you; if He forsakes you then who can help you? It is in Allah that the believers should put their trust." (Sura 3, verse 160)

In Hinduism, this idea is expressed in the Mahabharata. God (Krishna) asked the belligerents what they choose: to one He will give all His weapons, to the side of others He will take the side himself. The negative side chose weapons and lost.

In Christianity. "... (God) is not only much-powerful or great-powerful, but also all-powerful..." (Saint Mark of Ephesus, "Essay on the Jesus Prayer").

Omnipresence​

Hinduism. "Everything rests in Me, as beads strung on a thread." Bhagavad Gita, 7.7.

Christianity. "Whither shall I from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, thou art there. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea. Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me." (Psalms 139:7-10)

Islam. "Oh, verily, unto God belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth!" (Sura 10, verse 55)".

Non-attachment to matter and concentration on the high​

Hinduism.

"Those who are not attached to external sense pleasures realize divine bliss in the self. Being united with God through yog, they experience unending happiness." Bhagavad Gita, 5.21.


Christianity.

"But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." (Matthew 6:33).

"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:19-21).


Islam. "And whatever thing you [people] have been given - it is [only for] the enjoyment of worldly life and its adornment. And what is with Allah is better and more lasting." (Qur'an 28:60)


Buddhism. The cause of suffering is (earthly) desires.




Note.

Buddhism does not talk about God, but Buddhists strive for about the same things as in other religions: enlightenment, liberation. Through the development of noble qualities and spiritual practices.

"Do not harm others, be moderate in your desires, be disciplined, study spiritual literature, seek God."

Not how it is in my religion. It's instead, be influenced to not harm others if possible. In other words, there are zero rules in my religion, only teachings that influence people who believe in it. Also, it is taught in my religion that there is something that is greater than reality, but it can't be described other than being greater than reality, hence, greater than God or Gods, who can be described. It's what is within reality which can be described, so how this greater than reality affects what is within reality can be described.

This is why my religion is naturally atheistic but could become theistic if someone also believed in Gods that exist within reality. Which is why there's an atheistic sect of my religion and a theistic sect (I'm in the atheistic sect).

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The most concise statement about the unity of religions:

... is magically free of any reference to Judaism. How very interesting.

 

[Trailblazer]

"Do not harm others, be moderate in your desires, be disciplined, study spiritual literature, seek God."

Not how it is in my religion. It's instead, be influenced to not harm others if possible. In other words, there are zero rules in my religion, only teachings that influence people who believe in it. Also, it is taught in my religion that there is something that is greater than reality, but it can't be described other than being greater than reality, hence, greater than God or Gods, who can be described. It's what is within reality which can be described, so how this greater than reality affects what is within reality can be described.

This is why my religion is naturally atheistic but could become theistic if someone also believed in Gods that exist within reality. Which is why there's an atheistic sect of my religion and a theistic sect (I'm in the atheistic sect).

You said "Not how it is in my religion." What religion is that? Is it your personal belief system?

 

[Ebionite]

"Do not harm others, be moderate in your desires, be disciplined, study spiritual literature, seek God."

That'd be great if religious people stopped there instead of talking about all their religious dogma.
It would be great if religious people could find common ground instead of arguing over who is right.

The doctrine of the narrow path implies that religious disagreement is unavoidable. The doctrine follows from the idea that the divine is set-apart ("holy") from the mundane.

Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matthew 7:14

For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith YHWH.
Isaiah 55:8

 

[Trailblazer]

The doctrine of the narrow path implies that religious disagreement is unavoidable. The doctrine follows from the idea that the divine is set-apart ("holy") from the mundane.

Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matthew 7:14

The narrow path can mean more than one thing, just as many verses in the Bible have more than one meaning.

Matthew 7:13-14 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.​

I believe it is referring to the narrow road that leads to eternal life. Few people find that road and even fewer people enter through the narrow gate at the end of that road.

There are reasons why few people find it.
If you use logic and reason you would realize that few people find the narrow gate and even fewer people enter through it because it is narrow, so it is difficult to get through...

It is difficult to get through because one has to be willing to give up all their preconceived ideas, have an open mind, and think for themselves. Most people do not embark upon such a journey. They go through the wide gate, the easy one to get through – their own religious tradition or their own preconceived ideas about God or no god. They follow that broad road that is easiest for them to travel.... and that is why the NEW religion is always rejected by most people for a very long time after it has been revealed.

 

[Echogem222]

You said "Not how it is in my religion." What religion is that? Is it your personal belief system?

My religion is Flawlessism, I made a post about it in New Religious Movements DIR. Here is the link if you're interested: My new religion I founded, Flawlessism

 

[Trailblazer]

My religion is Flawlessism, I made a post about it in New Religious Movements DIR. Here is the link if you're interested: My new religion I founded, Flawlessism

Thanks. I was able to read about the religion but I was not able to respond to the post, since I have insufficient privileges to reply in that DIR.
I agree with everything in your summary. Most Abrahamic religions would probably substitute Flawless God for Flawless Good, but I like what you have better. Since nobody can ever prove that God exists, let alone is Flawless, that is only a belief. Flawless Good is also a belief, but at least it serves a purpose that is beneficial to people living their everyday lives on earth.

In summary, Flawlessism is the belief in the Flawless Good, a perfectly positive purpose that shapes our understanding of life. It encourages rational inquiry, embraces growth, and celebrates the journey of both personal development and contributing to a positive world. By exploring the Flawless Good, we aim to live more purposefully, thoughtfully, and compassionately.

 

[Echogem222]

Thanks. I was able to read about the religion but I was not able to respond to the post, since I have insufficient privileges to reply in that DIR.
I agree with everything in your summary. Most Abrahamic religions would probably substitute Flawless God for Flawless Good, but I like what you have better. Since nobody can ever prove that God exists, let alone is Flawless, that is only a belief. Flawless Good is also a belief, but at least it serves a purpose that is beneficial to people living their everyday lives on earth.

In summary, Flawlessism is the belief in the Flawless Good, a perfectly positive purpose that shapes our understanding of life. It encourages rational inquiry, embraces growth, and celebrates the journey of both personal development and contributing to a positive world. By exploring the Flawless Good, we aim to live more purposefully, thoughtfully, and compassionately.

Something I'd like to add is that the Flawless Good is like an action, a force that exists, but it's connected to whatever it is that exists outside of reality. What is outside of reality is greater than reality, and is where reality comes from, it can't be described because it's greater than infinity, time, and everything else, our words we use to understand things only work because reality allows such things to make sense to us, so naturally outside of reality can't be described using our words, just saying it's greater than reality isn't truly describing it, it's to say that reality can't be used to describe it because it's greater than reality.

So, what is greater than reality is not an individual, or a number of individuals, or anything like that (so like God or Gods), it's just greater than reality, that's all that can be understood, hence, why it's atheistic (unless you believe in God(s) existing within reality).

 

[idea]

All animals, birds, fish, deer, elephants - children rely on parents, altruism supports herds, groupthink/tribalism - faith in queen bee, follow alpha - just survival, nothing divine, laws of nature.

 

[ppp]

Something I'd like to add is that the Flawless Good is like an action, a force that exists, but it's connected to whatever it is that exists outside of reality.

What does "exists outside of reality" mean?

 

[Echogem222]

What does "exists outside of reality" mean?

Well, first, I need to explain what I see reality as being. Everything within our comprehension, even a little, is within reality. Infinity goes on forever, we can understand this, therefore, it's within reality. However, try to imagine something being greater than infinity, something going on longer than forever... You can't, you can't even begin to imagine what that would mean. Greater than infinity, greater than time, things like that are outside of reality. Greater than reality is just that, greater than everything within reality.

 

[ppp]

Well, first, I need to explain what I see reality as being. Everything within our comprehension, even a little, is within reality.

That is a strange definition of reality. It's a little too self centered. There are real things that we have not conceived of. There are things within our comprehension now that we're completely and absolutely outside the comprehension of people 10000 years ago. Those things were within reality then, just as they are now.

All of the stuff that is outside of my comprehension now, still exists.

 

[Echogem222]

That is a strange definition of reality. It's a little too self centered. There are real things that we have not conceived of. There are things within our comprehension now that we're completely and absolutely outside the comprehension of people 10000 years ago. Those things were within reality then, just as they are now.

All of the stuff that is outside of my comprehension now, still exists.

Then tell me, how can you ever understand something that goes on longer than forever? Would you not spend longer than forever trying to understand such a thing? We can't even fully comprehend infinity, and it's only because we can partially understand it is why it's within reality.

 

[ppp]

Infinity is a mathematical concept. It's not a thing. It's not an object. It's not a number. It's the concept of an unbounded set, and I understand it just fine. Math is really, really cool. But it is not mystical.

Then tell me, how can you ever understand something that goes on longer than forever?

This is not difficult. There are differently sized infinite sets of numbers. The set of integers is infinite. The set of real numbers is infinite. The set of real numbers is a larger infinite set than the set of integers.

But that is irrelevant. The fact still remains that reality is that which exists. Not that which you can comprehend.