I knew there is a nice you inside there.
Good answer.
It doesn't matter if Abraham never existed and if no one ever knew A God Who Is True. If The True God ever did or ever will send God's son he won't say to go make disciples. OK?
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It doesn't matter if Abraham never existed and if no one ever knew A God Who Is True. If The True God ever did or ever will send God's son he won't say to go make disciples. OK?
outhouse
Atheistically
Why not?
This meant a different context then you might think.
Go out and spread the good message of the man who will save you, and you wont have to worship a corrupt Emperor as the "real son of god is here"
It was about letting people know there was a better way to follow Judaism light and have all the good aspects of one god that was free for all, and you didnt have to pay to worship
I know this because it doesn't make sense. People try.......the devil laughs. I think laughter is good for physical and mental health. Does history have anything to say about it? Back to the point. Is it a good idea to make the devil healthy? I say no. What does history say please?
Aha! So "make" doesn't really mean make. Why do you think they added the word there? According to history the word make is added. Did you know that? Why not?
outhouse
Atheistically
The only way to answer your question in context is to know which verse your dealing with.
I would be guessing more then I already have been, besides trying to rough it in
The verb phrase would not be make them disciples. It would be make Jesus look attractive. Whtdu think?
There is only one. It is proof perfect to me it is wrong. I think everything right about scripture has backup. Do you know what backup is?
Maybe take a break from history and try English for a while.
Matthew 28:19
outhouse
Atheistically
maybe you don't understand why the mythology was generated after Jesus martyrdom after Passover.
Maybe you don't understand about Aramaic Galilean Judaism in relationship to what was written about him by people who didn't know him.
Maybe you don't understand about the Hellenist who found importance in the legends surrounding his death, who knew nothing about him that wrote 30-60 years after his death.
Cant help you without a verse #
outhouse
Atheistically
outhouse
Atheistically
Finally, the narrative teaches us about our mission. Because Jesus' future reign (28:18) has begun in the lives of his followers in the present age (v. 20), his people should exemplify his reign on earth as it is in heaven, as people of the kingdom, people of the future era (compare 6:10). Most significant in this passage, because Jesus has all authority, because he is King in the kingdom of God, disciples must carry on the mission of teaching the kingdom (10:7). Jesus' instructions include an imperative (a command) surrounded by three participial clauses: one should make disciples for Jesus by going, baptizing and teaching. Making disciples involves more than getting people to an altar; it involves training them as thoroughly as Jewish teachers instructed their own students. Most of modern Christendom falls far short on this count.
OK. I do not doubt you are right about the world's consuetude surrounding myths of the messiah. But all the evidence in two, three or a hundred worlds does not prove that nothing truly spiritual existed along side it all. It is fine for you to see the forest because you do not wish to trust in God. Does seeing the forest result in knowing everything growing and living in it? Yes or no.
I am out of context or are the people who believe they make disicples for Jesus out of context?
So all this time you are agreeing with me. Jesus!
New International Version
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
English Standard Version
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
New American Standard Bible
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
NET Bible
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit
GOD'S WORD® Translation
So wherever you go, make disciples of all nations: Baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
American Standard Version
Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
English Revised Version
Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost
Weymouth New Testament
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations; baptize them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit
World English Bible
Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations,+ baptizing them+ in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
English Standard Version
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
New American Standard Bible
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
NET Bible
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit
GOD'S WORD® Translation
So wherever you go, make disciples of all nations: Baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
American Standard Version
Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
English Revised Version
Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost
Weymouth New Testament
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations; baptize them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit
World English Bible
Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations,+ baptizing them+ in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit
I think you did not write this.
outhouse
Atheistically
No, its from the link I posted.
And that places it in context so you can understand more of the importance the authors were trying to convey.
outhouse
Atheistically
Nope.
I understand why the authors were telling these Hellenist to go and spread the good words.
This is a good thing.
Jesus was probably a disciple of John, and he took Johns message to the world.
Jesus actions however at Passover were important enough for him to be martyred and remembered enough for people find importance in his and Johns teachings.
These were passed on, and some aspects do live on in the Hellenist who spread his word after his death and the Jewish mission failed.
It was important for these people to go out and spread the good word, and that is what that verse states
Doesn't make it right or wrong, if anything it is a failed prophecy as the kingdom of god was proclaimed as coming soon and imminent in their life time. When it didn't look like anything was happening we started getting verses saying you may never know when to try and protect the prophecies credibility.
:sleep: Spreading the gospel (good and a command) and making disciples (an impossible task) are DIFFERENT. Why are you saying they are THE SAME?
Seeing everyone on forum thinks declaring good news and making others to declare good news are THE SAME. I need someone to explain to me why they are the same. Please.
Seeing everyone on forum thinks declaring good news and making others to declare good news are THE SAME. I need someone to explain to me why they are the same. Please.
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To make a disciple is to take out the straw from his eye. What did Jesus say about that? Let's paraphrase shall we? "You think that you should correct your fellowman, it is not possible but it IS possible to correct yourself".
To make a disciple is to correct his thinking. Is that an untrue statement?
What did Jesus say about correcting someone else? Why would he command you to do something he called you a hypocrite for doing?
To make a disciple is to correct his thinking. Is that an untrue statement?
What did Jesus say about correcting someone else? Why would he command you to do something he called you a hypocrite for doing?