Communist China is just plain brutal and sick.

[Kooky]

By the term 'extralegal,' you seem to imply that a higher law exists, than what a government defines. Where does that higher law come from? Again, it comes from either voting, if that works, or it from the central authority figure. I can't imagine another body or power that could define law. Are you talking about a platonic law?

If you actually believe that governments can't violate the laws of their own country, then boy do I have news for you!

 

[Kooky]

There is no such body though, as the 'international working class' as a coherent body. I keep hearing the left talk about, or imply, the existence of some social construct that has yet to exist. There are only two options for humans, democracy and authoritarianism. Anything other than those two options is incoherent; fictional.

You're wrong, sorry.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

If you actually believe that governments can't violate the laws of their own country, then boy do I have news for you!

In authoritarianism, they define it. In democracy it might get more complicated, but you might still generally blame the public for electing something that didn't turn out well. Or that fact that no one totally predict how any leader will do any given thing

You're wrong, sorry.

Very convincing argument, I think I'll still believe my opinion

 

[We Never Know]

I can't say this for sure, but I think most of it is down to regulations. Regulations encourage the eating of beef, chicken and pork but discourage the eating of almost ever other kind of meat. Let me explain. Many people hunt deer, but almost no one is allowed to sell their deer meat. You cannot go to a butcher or a grocer and request deer meat. For that reason in spite of its plenty most people in the US have never tasted deer, but most people have tasted beef. Horse meat regulations, similarly, make horse meat difficult to sell and obtain. It is put into dog food, but they won't sell it for human consumption. Therefore few have ever tasted horse. You'd have to buy a horse and slaughter it yourself to have horse meat.

I donate processed deer burger to the food pantry every year which they then hand out to people in need. I guess its ok to donate it.
However the wrap does say not for sale.

 

[Kooky]

In authoritarianism, they define it. In democracy it might get more complicated, but you might still generally blame the public for electing something that didn't turn out well. Or that fact that no one totally predict how any leader will do any given thing

None of this has anything to do with the fact that governments, too, are expected to follow the laws and legal procedures of their country, and in most modern systems of state cannot simply make up new laws on the fly.

This is really basic stuff, please inform yourself properly. Have you ever heard of the terms "executive power" and "legislative power"? Feel free to look them up.

Very convincing argument,

If you actually want to debate your point, then bring up some kind of argument or evidence in support of it and we can have a go. So far, all I have to go by are unsupported assertions on your part that don't even address the points I've been making.

 

[We Never Know]

None of this has anything to do with the fact that governments, too, are expected to follow the laws and legal procedures of their country, and in most modern systems of state cannot simply make up new laws on the fly.

This is really basic stuff, please inform yourself properly. Have you ever heard of the terms "executive power" and "legislative power"? Feel free to look them up.




If you actually want to debate your point, then bring up some kind of argument or evidence in support of it and we can have a go. So far, all I have to go by are unsupported assertions on your part that don't even address the points I've been making.

"that governments, too, are expected to follow the laws"

Our government should try that

 

[amorphous_constellation]

None of this has anything to do with the fact that governments, too, are expected to follow the laws and legal procedures of their country, and in most modern systems of state cannot simply make up new laws on the fly.

This is really basic stuff, please inform yourself properly. Have you ever heard of the terms "executive power" and "legislative power"? Feel free to look them up.

Obviously it seems that we live in a situation where interpretation is often applied, and subjectivity and unpredictability are in play, as we are talking about humans after all. For example, we don't live in a mindset, and perhaps we shouldn't, that the idea of nuclear war is inevitable. But really, it is kind of a matter of faith that we all don't wake up tomorrow in a world changed by higher order miscalculations