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Con men on dating sites

Trailblazer

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I don't know why for your first one, William, you did not talk to him on the phone from beginning. I could understand 1-2 emails, but after that why not talking on the phone, or video call? Probably it is easier and faster to know who he is. I think it is safer if the person has a common friend.
I did not talk on the phone with William because he did not want to talk to me on the phone for a long time, and now I know why, because I could have asked questions and pinned him down and he did not want that. He said the time would come when he would call me and surprise me, in order for it to be a romantic thing, and I just went along with him. One day he did call but he did not say much, and he had a foreign accent which I thought sounded really romantic. But the next time he called he was asking for money.

No, there was no common friend, but I should have checked to find out if he was really a Baha'i and really owned a farm long before I finally did that. I don't think I did it because I wanted to keep the fantasy going as long as I could. It was a nice fantasy while it lasted and the joke is on him, because if he had been who I thought he was he could have married me and never have to worry about money again for the rest of his life, since I have more money than I will ever need or use. I do not need a rich and I never did. I just want an honest man who has a good character and spiritual values.

In contrast to William, this man who is interested in me called Thomas wanted to talk on the phone right away and he still wants to talk on the phone. I think he is on the up and up, but after what has happened to me I am going to find out for sure before I proceed any further.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
That may be what saved you! Love, or the need for it can distort one's judgement.
It sure can, and that is what William was counting on. :rolleyes:
You should see all the love songs he sent me, even after I told him I was not looking for love.
I told him all I wanted was a man to come and help with the house, yard, and cats, and he promised to do that, so that is what led me on. I still get angry when I think about all his lies and I wish I could track him down. :mad:
Maybe I have more or less the kind of company you are after in the form of these friends of mine. One is from teenage years, delightfully rediscovered recently after an interval of 40 years (at a funeral, actually!), one is from the rowing club back in the 80s, and the third is a fellow choral singer, 20 year my junior but widowed with a teenage girl - she's the one I walk with every Friday. The rowing club one was a friend of us both in the days when my wife was alive but the other two have come on the scene after she died.

So what can I recommend, but sport, singing........ and going to lots of funerals?! :D
If I went to some social activities I would meet more people, and there is more than one senior center here that has social activities, like square dancing. Unfortunately I would still come home to a big empty house. I do not mind a big empty house since I have the cats for company, but cats cannot do handyman work or yard work! :( What I really need is to find a man with those skills and allow him to live on my property in exchange for work, or just charge him a little rent to park his trailer. If I could find an honest trustworthy man I might do that eventually.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I have to admit that I am better off now that I know the con men are con men. The fantasy was fun while it lasted, but I was starting to get irritable and I was even getting angry at the cats. At the time I did not realize why, but now that it is over I realize that I was on edge all this time, believing that the fantasy was eventually going to become a reality. It was like I was watching a fantasy movie about my own life and I was the main character. The problem is that the movie had to end eventually since it was not ever going to become a reality.
 

Stevicus

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Now when I look back at what happened with William and Alan, or whoever they really are, I can laugh, and in fact I have not laughed so hard in years! These men are really stupid if they think they are getting any money from me, and they are the losers because they wasted so much time prepping me for nothing. I also wasted my time but at least I got some entertainment out of it. I feel kind of foolish for being taken in by them but the joke is on them, not me, since I am the one having the last laugh. :D:D:D

Well, there's definitely a lot of crooks out there.

I don't really bother with dating sites, not for many years, for many of the same reasons you've mentioned here. Too many fakes.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
This is kind of embarrassing but I feel a need to share this. Hopefully, this will provide a little entertainment for my RF friends and viewers, and I don’t mind if you laugh, because it is pretty funny now that I know what has been going on.

About 2 ½ months ago I posted my profile on the Two Doves dating site, which is a Baha’i dating site, and this man who called himself William responded. We messaged on the site and then we started e-mailing back and forth, long e-mails about our childhoods, our adult lives, and our present living situations, where we lived and what we did for a living. He said he was a Baha’i had been one for about five years, and he was widowed about 10 years ago. Since I am a widow, I identified with his story about how he lost his wife. He also talked all about the Baha’i Faith and about God, and he knew the Baha’i Writings, so I had no doubt that he was a Baha’i. He claimed to be a farmer and live in a small town in southern Pennsylvania. He said he had three tractors but only one of them was presently operational because the other two had broken down.

The e-mails went on for quite a while and one day he said that the only tractor that was still working broke down so he could not do any work, and his hired help was not getting paid so he was really worried about them. Then he asked me for a loan to fix his tractor. Mind you, by then he knew that I was quite wealthy so asking me for $8500 would been like a drop in the bucket for me to loan him. I told him flat out “no” and I told him that I would never loan money to a man I met on a dating site, a man I had never even met. Then he said he was ashamed for asking me but he was desperate. Then I did not hear from him for a while, but it was not long after that that he asked me for the money again. By then I should have known something was really wrong. I think I did know on a subconscious level but I decided to keep communicating with him since it could do no harm since I never planned to give him any money.

Early on, in the e-mails and texts he kept sending me love songs and saying how much he loved me. I told him I did not care about love, that I just needed a man to be emotionally supportive and help me with my house and cats. I also did not need any money since I have more money than I will ever need.

I did not hear from him for a week after I turned him down and by then we had switched over from e-mail to texting. He said he just had to talk to me because he missed me and he loved me so much. :rolleyes: He told me he was in Paris, France doing some business transactions with a friend he had loaned money to, and he was trying to get his money back so he could go home to Pennsylvania and get his farm in order. He said that after that he planned to come and visit me, since I had been telling him I will not take him seriously until I actually meet him in person.

Then he said he was taking a train to London to complete his business. When he arrived in London (or so he said) he texted me that he needed money in order to complete his business transactions, and he asked me to send him 10 Razer Gold gift cards, totaling $1000. I misread his text and thought he was asking for one card for $100, so I thought what the heck and purchased one card on Amazon and sent it to his e-mail address. Then he texted me that he wanted $1000, not $100. After that, I called Amazon and told them to cancel my order and luckily it had not been processed so customer service cancelled it immediately. Then he texted me asking where the one card for $100 was. It told him that since he wanted $1000 and not $100, I canceled the order. By then I knew what he was up to so I was just playing around with him to see what he’d do. :D

I finally decided to try to find out if he was who he claimed to be or not, so I called the 1-800 number on the Baha’i website Where are the Bahá’ís in the United States? | Bahá’í Faith : Local that has a map showing where all the Baha’is are in the United States. A Baha’i woman later called me back and said there are no Baha’is in the little town where he said he lived or anywhere near that town, and she could not even find a Baha’i by the name he had given me. I then sent an e-mail to the Baha’i dating site manager about him and the site manager e-mailed me back saying he knows of this man and he has asked other women for money and he has been banned from their site.

Now that I had all this information in hand, I told him that if he was who he claimed to be he would be able to prove it. He asked why he should have to prove it and then I laughed (to myself). I then proceeded to call this man out on his lies, and it has been the most fun I have had in years! There is no way he can wiggle out of his lies and watching him trying to wiggle out is so much fun. He is the greatest con artist of all time, but he did not slip past me because I am not stupid. I have a MA in Psychology and 13 years of experience renting houses to tenants, so I know all the games people try to play. I was just vulnerable since I thought I needed a man, but now I am beginning to wonder if I ever want a man!

About a week ago, I started texting another man called Alan who I met on another dating site. I told him what had happened with William, asking me for money and how I never gave him any. However, he did the same thing as William, acting as if he cared about my welfare, that I was eating and sleeping enough, but his MO was a little different because he portrayed himself to be a millionaire who invests in cryptocurrencies and he made all kinds of promises to me about how our life in retirement would be so great since he has so much money. I told him I have as much money as he does and I do not need his money. Perhaps that was my first mistake, since now he knew, like William knew, that I had a lot of money and other financial assets. Luckily, this so-called relationship only lasted a week. My last contact with him was yesterday when he asked me if I wanted to invest in crypto and I told him I am not sending anyone any money, as William had found out. I believe that is the end of any communication with him, and at least this only lasted a week.

Stay tuned to this TV station, because there is a third man who I met on yet another dating site about two months ago who I have been communicating with off and on. He has never asked me for any money and he has told me that he has a house in Budapest, Hungary, where he is living now since he has a grocery business there. He told me he also has two houses in Washington State where I live, one in Seattle and one in Gig Harbor. He told me that he is retired from the U. S. Marines after 30 years and he started the grocery business in Budapest since he has many relatives there, since he was brought up in Hungary. He told me that he started the grocery business in order to keep busy after his wife died 12 years ago, since he was so lonely. He told me that he is trying to start up another grocery business in Seattle, which is his home base where he has spent most of his life. I plan to continue communicating with him and see where it might lead.

I don’t think that most men on dating sites are con men, but I also don’t know the best way to find out if they are. I do not plan to go through this rigamarole again. It was fun for a while but I can think of much better ways to spend my time.

Now when I look back at what happened with William and Alan, or whoever they really are, I can laugh, and in fact I have not laughed so hard in years! These men are really stupid if they think they are getting any money from me, and they are the losers because they wasted so much time prepping me for nothing. I also wasted my time but at least I got some entertainment out of it. I feel kind of foolish for being taken in by them but the joke is on them, not me, since I am the one having the last laugh. :D:D:D
Lol. I'm glad you're having fun, and know the tricks people play. Stay safe.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
To be honest if I were still a Baha'i and looking for a Bahai partner I would attend Ruhi books as they are an easy way to meet Baha'i of all ages and lifestyles.

But if you can't stomach the Ruhi books I totally understand lol.

In my opinion.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
To be honest if I were still a Baha'i and looking for a Bahai partner I would attend Ruhi books as they are an easy way to meet Baha'i of all ages and lifestyles.

But if you can't stomach the Ruhi books I totally understand lol.

In my opinion.
Thanks, but I don't think there are any single Baha'is anywhere near my age anywhere in this area.
All the Baha'is my age bracket are long married.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Thanks, but I don't think there are any single Baha'is anywhere near my age anywhere in this area.
All the Baha'is my age bracket are long married.
If you are able to get someone to look after the cats for 3 or 9 days you could try pilgrimage as a way to meet people i suppose. Only problem with that is the waiting time I guess.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
If you are able to get someone to look after the cats for 3 or 9 days you could try pilgrimage as a way to meet people i suppose. Only problem with that is the waiting time I guess.
That would not help me because if I met a Baha'i on pilgrimage he would not live anywhere near me. My best chance is finding a Baha'i on a dating site who is really interested in marriage and is wiling to relocate to where I live.

So far, I have been on the Two Doves and BahaiMingle sites. I messages many men in the US but only two men have responded, the con man and another Baha'i who lives in Montana. Montana is not that far from here, but I don't really think that we would be compatible, after talking to him on the phone for about three hours. I might look for another Baha'i dating site.
 

danieldemol

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Premium Member
That would not help me because if I met a Baha'i on pilgrimage he would not live anywhere near me. My best chance is finding a Baha'i on a dating site who is really interested in marriage and is wiling to relocate to where I live.

So far, I have been on the Two Doves and BahaiMingle sites. I messages many men in the US but only two men have responded, the con man and another Baha'i who lives in Montana. Montana is not that far from here, but I don't really think that we would be compatible, after talking to him on the phone for about three hours. I might look for another Baha'i dating site.
Ok, good luck with finding a new partner
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
If the scam attempts continue, eventually it may be time to find a different online avenue for dating, I would think. Some online avenues are more hot beds for scammers than others.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
If the scam attempts continue, eventually it may be time to find a different online avenue for dating, I would think. Some online avenues are more hot beds for scammers than others.
I cancelled my subscription to one of the dating sites and I got a refund for the months remaining.

There are scammers on all the dating sites but some sites offer verification of members as an extra feature.

I have learned a hard lesson so I know what to look out for now and I know what to do. I ask men who contact me to verify their identity if they are serious about me and I never give my phone number or e-mail to a man who I have not verified to be a real person who exists.
 
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