Congress Overides Obama's Veto Of The So Called 9/11 Bill

[Godobeyer]

There probably was an element of that involved in the decision-making. I suspect the Japanese government weren't all united in their desire to surrender right away. I can only guess but I think they were hoping to surrender only after they had inflicted devastating casualties on any American invasion of the Japanese home islands so that they'd have a much stronger position to bargain their surrender from. And once the A-bomb was dropped I suspect the Japanese were hoping the Americans had only made the one. When it became apparent that they had made more...

I think there is no "problably" with/ to face credible history events.

 

[Wirey]

We'll see.
I just filed a suit.
Have you been served yet?

Not yet. The waitress in this place stinks.

 

[Underhill]

I must say, it is really funny to see so many Americans actually having the gall to declare out loud and in public that the reason they don't like this law is because it will open up America to having to be accountable for all the terror they have brought on the world through their defense, security and intelligence forces. It is the same reason why they justify themselves not becoming a signatory of the ICC.

Now Americans not wanting to be held accountable for their crimes (or Americans not wanting their government to be held accountable for their governments crimes) would be nothing unusual if it wasn't for how quick they or their government is to bomb the hell out of supposed tyrants and dictators around world. And the excuse used for their governments terror attacks is often that these "evil men" are killing their own people. Now isn't it ironic that America should be so keen to bring justice against foreign leaders who kill their own people but is so reticent to bring justice to a foreign government who may have been involved in killing the American people?

The truth is that, internationally speaking, America is a criminal state and a bully. But I rest in the knowledge that no empire lasts forever.

Yeah, I mean the Roman Empire was only around for 2000 years.

 

[Revoltingest]

The truth is that, internationally speaking, America is a criminal state and a bully. But I rest in the knowledge that no empire lasts forever.

No wonder Obama vetoed it.
The idea that his head would be on a plate must've rankled.

 

[columbus]

No wonder Obama vetoed it.
The idea that his head would be on a plate must've rankled.

It would be a little hard to find a top US official since Clinton that wouldn't have a problem. But I am pretty sure the Bush administration has all the worst offenders.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

It would be a little hard to find a top US official since Clinton that wouldn't have a problem. But I am pretty sure the Bush administration has all the worst offenders.
Tom

The first thing Obama dis upon assuming office was to continue Bush's policies.

 

[columbus]

The first thing Obama dis upon assuming office was to continue Bush's policies.

Yeah, Obama inherited a big mess, didn't he though?
It is amazing to me how the same policies that the Republicans instituted became really awful when Obama continued them.
It's a little hard to make sweeping changes when Congress is so obstructionist though.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah, Obama inherited a big mess, didn't he though?
It is amazing to me how the same policies that the Republicans instituted became really awful when Obama continued them.
It's a little hard to make sweeping changes when Congress is so obstructionist though.
Tom

I just don't see things as Dem v Pub....defending one by criticizing the other.
Obama is responsible for the choices he made with the power he exercised.
He could've immediately ended the wars.
Instead, he continued them.
He cannot blame Bush or Congress for this.

 

[Quetzal]

I just don't see things as Dem v Pub....defending one by criticizing the other.
Obama is responsible for the choices he made with the power he exercised.
He could've immediately ended the wars.
Instead, he continued them.
He cannot blame Bush or Congress for this.

He did end them, just not as quickly as I would have liked.

 

[Revoltingest]

He did end them, just not as quickly as I would have liked.

But until he did, he didn't.

 

[columbus]

He did end them, just not as quickly as I would have liked.

And now he is catching a ton of flack because he didn't get rid of Daesh first.
Tom

 

[Quetzal]

But until he did, he didn't.

Are you pickin' a fight, Scotsman? Do I need to take you to the cleaners again?

 

[Revoltingest]

Are you pickin' a fight, Scotsman? Do I need to take you to the cleaners again?

 

[Thanda]

Yeah, I mean the Roman Empire was only around for 2000 years.

More like 500 years. It was just a republic for most of the time.

 

[Underhill]

More like 500 years. It was just a republic for most of the time.

More like 1400 years. Founded in 27 and was dissolved in 1453. But who's counting right...? (Taking an ancient history class this semester.)

 

[Thanda]

More like 1400 years. Founded in 27 and was dissolved in 1453. But who's counting right...? (Taking an ancient history class this semester.)

After 480 AD only half the empire existed. It's influence and power by then was far reduced. I expect that this will soon happen to the US as well unless they cease their aggression in the world.

 

[Debater Slayer]

How about Japan (A-bomb) and Vietnam and Libya and Somalia and Afghanistan and Iraq!

These done officially by government not individuals.

Let's not forget Palestinians who are families of victims of war crimes committed by Israel, a country that the U.S. has supported on the political and military fronts for years.

The U.S. is responsible for more needless deaths than Saudi Arabia and even many terrorist organizations are. One main difference is that the U.S. government has used euphemisms like "fighting for freedom" to refer to some of its invasions of other countries.

 

[Godobeyer]

Let's not forget Palestinians who are families of victims of war crimes committed by Israel, a country that the U.S. has supported on the political and military fronts for years.

The U.S. is responsible for more needless deaths than Saudi Arabia and even many terrorist organizations are. One main difference is that the U.S. government has used euphemisms like "fighting for freedom" to refer to some of its invasions of other countries.

There is some reports also said 1 million iraqi kids died because sanction of UN which made by USA and West.

Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead Iraqi Children was "worth it" wins Medal of Freedom

There is also bombing Egypt because suez canal.

 

[Godobeyer]

KILL EVERYBODY: American soldier exposes US policy in Iraq

 

[esmith]

How about Japan (A-bomb)

I might suggest you study a little history before asking this question. I'm not open to a debate about his subject in this thread though.