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Consciousness and Mind according to Vedanta
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Very nice clip on consciousness-in-200-seconds by Swami Sarvapriyananda, thank you.
The first video I watched of his was some years ago - it was a lecture on MAndukya Upanishad and "Who am I?" at IIT Kanpur. It was interesting how he related the information to the college kids.
Here is another very good talk on Moksha by Swami Sarvapriyananda
In this video I want to highlight only two very subtle, yet valuable points he made in the very end - and although they appear to be very basic and nothing new, the same thing being heard over and over, something about the way swamiji explains it makes it very profound
1. @54 mins a lady asks a question on space and time.
Swamiji: Is your experience of yourself
a) "I am consciousness in the body which is in this whole space"
OR
b) "I am the consciousness/awareness in which all this space, this body and everything else resides, i.e. Everything is in me" ?
a) -- this wrong notion is becs you think you are the body
b) -- shows that time and space are appearances within you , therefore time is an illusion
2. (@57:30 mins Someone asked about transmigration - punarjanma , we will skip to 58:10
Swamiji: What happens after jnAna -
@58:10 - Upanishads say: karma is burnt up by the fire of knowledge (jnAna) except for prArabdha (arrow and quiver)
"However, this is not the position of advaita. When one is enlightened, it does not make karma disappear or burn, that is not right. This is just a placeholder explanation. The truth at enlightenment -- explained by Adi ShankarAchArya in his text "aparoksha anubhUti", at the end :
You do not realize -- "oh no more lives now! Yay"
ShankarAchArya says no no.
Instead, you realize "I was never born, not once, and will never be born. I am the infinite consciousness, in which this movie of world is appearing, Karma, time, space, body -- it is all appearance - movie."
Deeper truth - there is no karma at all
At the vyavahAric level - karma is admitted. [even after enlightenment!]
So, enlightenment is not freedom from karma. It is the realization that there was never any karma to begin with.
[So does this mean the entity/kAraN sharIra that dies may be reborn as another, but to the infinite JnAni there is no connection to that previous kAraN sharIra , it is just like anyone else's kAraN sharIra and they are all appearances within me ?]
3. @46 mins : desha-kaala-vastu-pariccheda-shUnya --- The story of the donkey and washerman
Very nice clip on consciousness-in-200-seconds by Swami Sarvapriyananda, thank you.
The first video I watched of his was some years ago - it was a lecture on MAndukya Upanishad and "Who am I?" at IIT Kanpur. It was interesting how he related the information to the college kids.
Here is another very good talk on Moksha by Swami Sarvapriyananda
In this video I want to highlight only two very subtle, yet valuable points he made in the very end - and although they appear to be very basic and nothing new, the same thing being heard over and over, something about the way swamiji explains it makes it very profound
1. @54 mins a lady asks a question on space and time.
Swamiji: Is your experience of yourself
a) "I am consciousness in the body which is in this whole space"
OR
b) "I am the consciousness/awareness in which all this space, this body and everything else resides, i.e. Everything is in me" ?
a) -- this wrong notion is becs you think you are the body
b) -- shows that time and space are appearances within you , therefore time is an illusion
2. (@57:30 mins Someone asked about transmigration - punarjanma , we will skip to 58:10
Swamiji: What happens after jnAna -
@58:10 - Upanishads say: karma is burnt up by the fire of knowledge (jnAna) except for prArabdha (arrow and quiver)
"However, this is not the position of advaita. When one is enlightened, it does not make karma disappear or burn, that is not right. This is just a placeholder explanation. The truth at enlightenment -- explained by Adi ShankarAchArya in his text "aparoksha anubhUti", at the end :
You do not realize -- "oh no more lives now! Yay"
ShankarAchArya says no no.
Instead, you realize "I was never born, not once, and will never be born. I am the infinite consciousness, in which this movie of world is appearing, Karma, time, space, body -- it is all appearance - movie."
Deeper truth - there is no karma at all
At the vyavahAric level - karma is admitted. [even after enlightenment!]
So, enlightenment is not freedom from karma. It is the realization that there was never any karma to begin with.
[So does this mean the entity/kAraN sharIra that dies may be reborn as another, but to the infinite JnAni there is no connection to that previous kAraN sharIra , it is just like anyone else's kAraN sharIra and they are all appearances within me ?]
3. @46 mins : desha-kaala-vastu-pariccheda-shUnya --- The story of the donkey and washerman
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