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Consciousness is all there is

BlueSky95

Member
This is my final conclusion, there's nothing beyond this: everything is consciousness and an expression of consciousness.; Consciousness is the background that sustains all things.

This human body is an expression of consciousness through which consciousness itself sees itself from within itself as if it is outside of itself. The body is like a device that can modelate the consciousness "field" based on its inner chemestry.

Everything is divine but this body has the ability to modelate the divine consciousness to a lower consciousness, so here we are, in the world of good and evil. Not only the human life, this is just one device from many.

When we die, we return to this field of consciousness and awaken to the fact that we are one with God, that we are God, that we never left our Home, that we were and we are at Home.

I studied many NDEs and my own experiences.


I am one with everything and everyone but through this body I see myself as if I am a separated entity.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
This is my final conclusion, there's nothing beyond this: everything is consciousness and an expression of consciousness.; Consciousness is the background that sustains all things.

This human body is an expression of consciousness through which consciousness itself sees itself from within itself as if it is outside of itself. The body is like a device that can modelate the consciousness "field" based on its inner chemestry.

Everything is divine but this body has the ability to modelate the divine consciousness to a lower consciousness, so here we are, in the world of good and evil. Not only the human life, this is just one device from many.

When we die, we return to this field of consciousness and awaken to the fact that we are one with God, that we are God, that we never left our Home, that we were and we are at Home.

I studied many NDEs and my own experiences.


I am one with everything and everyone but through this body I see myself as if I am a separated entity.

Consciousness is the word we use to describe a specific state of a physical brain. There is absolutely no verifiable evidence that consciousness can exist without a living physical brain.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I tend to think there is a medium in which consciousness forms, comes to be, and expresses itself as it is. This medium is an intelligent environment that comes from a source unknown.

The source would be an eternal reality that doesn't have to meet any conditions to exist. The source is of the medium and always existed.

The source could be many things! It discovers itself and its creative power and it goes about ever learning and ever exploring. The source seeks out places to live and abide in.

The source is everywhere non locally, and locally manifests itself. Humans are living entities from the source! When we die we move back into the medium from where we came from.
 

BlueSky95

Member
Consciousness is the word we use to describe a specific state of a physical brain. There is absolutely no verifiable evidence that consciousness can exist without a living physical brain.

There is abolustely no verifiable evidence that consciousness can not exist without a living physical brain or better said, body. Studying the NDEs and my own experiences, seeing the patterns, on and on, I came to this conclusion, consciousness is all there. If you never had an NDE, please don't try to sound as if you know what's there, you don't. I looked at some smart people trying to force their naturalistic way of seeing into these NDEs and the irony is that they never had one, you can't talk about something you don't really know.
 

BlueSky95

Member
I tend to think there is a medium in which consciousness forms, comes to be, and expresses itself as it is. This medium is an intelligent environment that comes from a source unknown.

The source would be an eternal reality that doesn't have to meet any conditions to exist. The source is of the medium and always existed.

The source could be many things! It discovers itself and its creative power and it goes about ever learning and ever exploring. The source seeks out places to live and abide in.

The source is everywhere non locally, and locally manifests itself. Humans are living entities from the source! When we die we move back into the medium from where we came from.

You try go deeper, I stop at consciousness, it is all there is to me, there's nothing outside it, just different expressions of it.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I watched a TED Talk and I liked how the speaker put it: Maybe we are not body that has consciousness but our consciousness has a body.

He defined consciousness as energy. We are all energy and we are moving even though our brains collectively sees things as static and a contextual puzzle. Once we understand all is energy and energy itself is consciousness (so it is awareness), then our bodies are just an expression of that consciousness. We are consciousness rather than the mind/brain.

That's how it was posed. It's an interesting topic but can't quite get passed that part. People have different definitions of the word but could never really focus on one view as opposed to many.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I studied many NDEs and my own experiences.

Good to hear you've studied many NDEs. Could you refresh my memory, please? Which regions of the brain have the neurosciences revealed to be most closely associated with NDEs?
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
There is abolustely no verifiable evidence that consciousness can not exist without a living physical brain or better said, body. Studying the NDEs and my own experiences, seeing the patterns, on and on, I came to this conclusion, consciousness is all there. If you never had an NDE, please don't try to sound as if you know what's there, you don't. I looked at some smart people trying to force their naturalistic way of seeing into these NDEs and the irony is that they never had one, you can't talk about something you don't really know.

Sorry, but that's not how it works. You don't set out to prove a negative. You provide verifiable evidence for a positive claim.

And please don't try and claim that you had some sort of an 'experience with death' just because you had a NDE... note that it's a NEAR death experience... not an experience of being dead. What I HAVE had experience with are hallucinations created by my physical brain... very similar to the hallucinations that a brain on the verge of death might experience. All your NDE is evidence of is that the brain will hallucinate when it's on the verge of permanently shutting down.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
This is my final conclusion, there's nothing beyond this: everything is consciousness and an expression of consciousness.; Consciousness is the background that sustains all things.

This human body is an expression of consciousness through which consciousness itself sees itself from within itself as if it is outside of itself. The body is like a device that can modelate the consciousness "field" based on its inner chemestry.

Everything is divine but this body has the ability to modelate the divine consciousness to a lower consciousness, so here we are, in the world of good and evil. Not only the human life, this is just one device from many.

When we die, we return to this field of consciousness and awaken to the fact that we are one with God, that we are God, that we never left our Home, that we were and we are at Home.

I studied many NDEs and my own experiences.


I am one with everything and everyone but through this body I see myself as if I am a separated entity.

What's the difference between consciousness and god?

I would think consciousness is all things/people not the background (or cause? or source? god?)
 

BlueSky95

Member
What if you are already in that field of consciousness?

We are but in this body we can't see this, maybe we can but our awareness is not that evolved... the "Aha" moment is something that it's very similar with an expansion of one's awareness, suddenly, it makes sense, you see more, you understand more.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
There is abolustely no verifiable evidence that consciousness can not exist without a living physical brain or better said, body. Studying the NDEs and my own experiences, seeing the patterns, on and on, I came to this conclusion, consciousness is all there. If you never had an NDE, please don't try to sound as if you know what's there, you don't. I looked at some smart people trying to force their naturalistic way of seeing into these NDEs and the irony is that they never had one, you can't talk about something you don't really know.

Do you still see the body as a part of "self"? Or have you now let go of the attachment to self, so you are now at a level of selfless being? :)
 

BlueSky95

Member
Good to hear you've studied many NDEs. Could you refresh my memory, please? Which regions of the brain have the neurosciences revealed to be most closely associated with NDEs?

Not only I've studied them, I had myself similar experiences, in fact, I have over 250 out of body experiences, I never took drugs in my life, don't drink, don't smoke and don't even drink soda, ha ha ha. In the last week I had around 5 out of body experiences, this morning I flew over my town.

My most powerful experience happened one night, I found myself in a purple nebula, in space and this purple nebula was me and it spoke it me, it said - I am everywhere and everything is an expression of myself and yourself, don't be afraid of life, everything that happens, happens because it was your choice to happen.

The most similar way for one to have a near death experience-like is through DMT from what I've read, that's the trick, DMT can alter this device, called body, to experience more form this field of conciousness, So look at the DMT experiments yourself and see for yourself if there's a similarity between the effects of DMT and what is happening in the case of an NDE. There's a neurosuregeon ( Eben Alexander, in fact, there are more ) who had a NDE and said that it was real, in fact, ultra real ( it is ultra real if you ever had such an experience ), he has some books about this, he did not say it was a hallucination, but going with this logic, a NDE is a hallucination that is secvential, they call it "complex hallucination" because really they have no idea what it really is.
 

BlueSky95

Member
Sorry, but that's not how it works. You don't set out to prove a negative. You provide verifiable evidence for a positive claim.

And please don't try and claim that you had some sort of an 'experience with death' just because you had a NDE... note that it's a NEAR death experience... not an experience of being dead. What I HAVE had experience with are hallucinations created by my physical brain... very similar to the hallucinations that a brain on the verge of death might experience. All your NDE is evidence of is that the brain will hallucinate when it's on the verge of permanently shutting down.

I was sure you are going to say this, there's no negative and no positive, it's just what it is, there's no real evidence that this "human consciousness" can not go on after death. Those who had an NDE know better. I know about hallucinations, they are part of this consciousness field, you are just not going too deep, from my research, you have to "raise your awareness", basically to become more and more aware of the unity of all things, to go further or... have an NDE but this not a real option. You are stuck at the mental level, I've been there many times, people also have lucid dreams, including me.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
There is abolustely no verifiable evidence that consciousness can not exist without a living physical brain or better said, body. Studying the NDEs and my own experiences, seeing the patterns, on and on, I came to this conclusion, consciousness is all there. If you never had an NDE, please don't try to sound as if you know what's there, you don't. I looked at some smart people trying to force their naturalistic way of seeing into these NDEs and the irony is that they never had one, you can't talk about something you don't really know.

If you've never jumped off a cliff, are you saying you can't know what'll happen to you when you hit the bottom?
 

BlueSky95

Member
Do you still see the body as a part of "self"? Or have you now let go of the attachment to self, so you are now at a level of selfless being? :)

I have not fully let go, I am moving towards that direction. At one point in my life all I saw was separation, me and the rest of the world, now I started to see the unity of all things, I see myself in all people and all people in me.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Not only I've studied them, I had myself similar experiences, in fact, I have over 250 out of body experiences, I never took drugs in my life, don't drink, don't smoke and don't even drink soda, ha ha ha. In the last week I had around 5 out of body experiences, this morning I flew over my town.

My most powerful experience happened one night, I found myself in a purple nebula, in space and this purple nebula was me and it spoke it me, it said - I am everywhere and everything is an expression of myself and yourself, don't be afraid of life, everything that happens, happens because it was your choice to happen.

The most similar way for one to have a near death experience-like is through DMT from what I've read, that's the trick, DMT can alter this device, called body, to experience more form this field of conciousness, So look at the DMT experiments yourself and see for yourself if there's a similarity between the effects of DMT and what is happening in the case of an NDE. There's a neurosuregeon ( Eben Alexander, in fact, there are more ) who had a NDE and said that it was real, in fact, ultra real ( it is ultra real if you ever had such an experience ), he has some books about this, he did not say it was a hallucination, but going with this logic, a NDE is a hallucination that is secvential, they call it "complex hallucination" because really they have no idea what it really is.

So because the purple nebula, which was also you, told you (so, you told yourself..?) that you are everywhere and everything is an expression of you, you...believe the purple nebula/yourself?

You recognize how that sounds, right?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I have not fully let go, I am moving towards that direction. At one point in my life all I saw was separation, me and the rest of the world, now I started to see the unity of all things, I see myself in all people and all people in me.
When you let fully go, your experience will be tenfold and wisdom will raise
 

BlueSky95

Member
What's the difference between consciousness and god?

I would think consciousness is all things/people not the background (or cause? or source? god?)

My opionion is that consciousness is God, the example with the background is just an example to understand that all things are born from this consciousness as expressions of consciousness, so consciousness is the background that sustains all things.
 
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