constitutional monarchy?

[Eddi]

What’s wrong with having a constitutional monarchy?

I think it is the best system of government

It promotes stability, unity, and continuity

Surely these things are good?

Whilst also allowing democracy to take place

And I think it is a much more dignified system when compared to other ways of doing things

 

[Rival]

I like the way the British system does it and I prefer it to a presidency; that said, I can definitely see the argument for a republic, but if that were to materialise I would prefer it stay largely the same system just without the King/Queen.

 

[Eddi]

I like the way the British system does it and I prefer it to a presidency; that said, I can definitely see the argument for a republic, but if that were to materialise I would prefer it stay largely the same system just without the King/Queen.

You mean like this?

Elective monarchy - Wikipedia

 

[Rival]

You mean like this?

Elective monarchy - Wikipedia

No, I mean without a King or Queen at all, but keep the PM as the head, instead of a presidential office.

 

[Eddi]

No, I mean without a King or Queen at all, but keep the PM as the head, instead of a presidential office.

OK, I see what you mean!

I'd rather have the head of state and head of government to be separate people, separate offices

I think that's more constitutional

And I think that if the head of state is not hereditary then it should be directly elected by the population

 

[JustGeorge]

I've thought about that before...

I think more than anything, we could use leaders. Not politicians(although they could be), but leaders. Those whose actions are a (positive) example, and inspire us to act likewise. And not divided leaders, who only work to uplift those who "think, act, believe and live just like me", but those who seek to befriend even those with whom the vehemently disagree.

We see so few real leaders these days.

 

[sun rise]

Some places have a President and Prime Minister Semi-presidential system - Wikipedia

 

[ChristineM]

Some places have a President and Prime Minister Semi-presidential system - Wikipedia

France

 

[Estro Felino]

I think a monarch is more useful than a president who could steal prerogatives from the Prime Minister (executive power).
So it is a useful figure. And btw in certain countries it is the symbol of national unity.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

What’s wrong with having a constitutional monarchy?

I think it is the best system of government

It promotes stability, unity, and continuity

Surely these things are good?

Whilst also allowing democracy to take place

And I think it is a much more dignified system when compared to other ways of doing things

To the extent that a country is a monarchy, it is not a democracy. I prefer my democracy not to be in half-measures.

Monarchy - especially if you're talking about hereditary monarchy - is opposed to the ideals of equality of the people and accountability to the people. It has no place in a society that values equality, freedom, or responsible government.

In the case of many monarchies that are holdovers from the days of empire - e.g. the one I live in, Canada - monarchy is also inexorably tied to foreign, absentee rule. A country's head of state should be loyal to that country first and foremost; most constitutional monarchies end up being the second-rate countries for a monarch whose main loyalty is to the former metropole of the now-dead empire.

 

[Secret Chief]

What’s wrong with having a constitutional monarchy?

It's a morally indefensible anachronism?

 

[shunyadragon]

What’s wrong with having a constitutional monarchy?

I think it is the best system of government

It promotes stability, unity, and continuity

Surely these things are good?

Whilst also allowing democracy to take place

And I think it is a much more dignified system when compared to other ways of doing things

. . . and leaves those who do no believe unrepresented, and often subject obey laws they do not believe, as well as sometimes oppressed as in the past.

 

[Nakosis]

What’s wrong with having a constitutional monarchy?

I think it is the best system of government

It promotes stability, unity, and continuity

Surely these things are good?

Whilst also allowing democracy to take place

And I think it is a much more dignified system when compared to other ways of doing things

So you think there ought to be people who are handed wealth and power because of their family ties?

 

[Eddi]

So you think there ought to be people who are handed wealth and power because of their family ties?

No, I don't

Of course I don't

But there are arguments for it

 

[Nakosis]

I've thought about that before...

I think more than anything, we could use leaders. Not politicians(although they could be), but leaders. Those whose actions are a (positive) example, and inspire us to act likewise. And not divided leaders, who only work to uplift those who "think, act, believe and live just like me", but those who seek to befriend even those with whom the vehemently disagree.

We see so few real leaders these days.

Nobody wants leaders. Nobody wants someone telling them what they don't want to hear. Well, certainly not enough to get anyone like that elected.

 

[Nakosis]

No, I don't

Of course I don't

But there are arguments for it

There was a lot of inbreeding in Europe too because of monarchs not wanting to thin the bloodline.

The real problem with any system is the people. Whatever system of government you have it's still run by people. We've got some serious flaws. Maybe at some point will have computers running everything. As long as we don't start trying to program personality and feelings into them.

 

[ChristineM]

What’s wrong with having a constitutional monarchy?

The monarch

 

[Brickjectivity]

What’s wrong with having a constitutional monarchy?

I think it is the best system of government

It promotes stability, unity, and continuity

Surely these things are good?

Whilst also allowing democracy to take place

And I think it is a much more dignified system when compared to other ways of doing things

I'm not sure what it is. Either it means the monarchy is suppressed by the parliament that claims to derive its authority through the monarch....or it means that the monarch has got underlings or that a monarch has no interest in governing.

 

[Eddi]

Maybe at some point will have computers running everything

That's exactly what I advocated in this post:

Poll: Should we build a Singleton? - Leviathan 2

 

[JustGeorge]

As long as we don't start trying to program personality and feelings into them.

We will. The best option here would be to have a neutral person do the programming, but I don't think a neutral person exists.