Contacting spirits?

[Arkangel]

I wouldn't dream of doing such a thing.............

I made sure I did before doing so; but then, when I go into things, I usually do so having first researched.

If that is how you feel, then it is right for you. You are right in warning people off; it is not something to try without knowing what you are doing.

But there is nothing stopping you from looking into telepathy, or psychokinetics........

Telepathy and psychokinetics are not that easy to achieve either. These things are still uncharted zone of our mind. 90% of our mind is still unexplored but we are not yet developed to tap into that 90%.

I studied a lot on telepathy and one thing amazing I found out. We all do posess telepathy, something that we never observe ourselves using. When driving in India, I noticed one thing that could very well be a kind of basic telepathy where we are reading signs of each other and nither of us are comunicating in any form of bodylanguage. It happens is almost every country when you are on the road, you are so busy traveling and thinking about your destination you do not realize you are comunicating with someone on a level you never do normally.

I noticed this in India cause the roads their are chaotic and you just see a person and know exactly what he is going to do and compensate for it. It is mainly bodylanguage but on such basic level that you got to wonder how is it possible. You cant attribute it to caveman or evloution cause there were no traffic then. The process is simple, he gives you a glance and in that you know exactly what he means. He might have said, i am going to take a right over here but since your speed is more you must cross before i do it.

This kind of thing might have happened to all of you and you never pause to think how did i know what he was going to do.

When you bring your conscious brain, it brings with it doubt and its limitation. To achieve telepathy you have to cross this barrier of conscious brain without lossing your consciousness. It is quite difficult to do but once achieved you can experience things that is beyond this plane of understanding.

Talking with the dead is not possible. There is something called Cosmic Memory and when their is a riple in it you feel it as a possesion. That memory is trying to tell something and most of the time it scares you. You do not understand what is happening and not understanding causes fear that translates it as resistance to that memory and it becomes more violent.

 

[kreeden]

Yeah I use the light orb for protection against the living more than the dead...

Me too . OMHO , a person is in more danger from their own kind .

As for Spirits ... well there are different types of Spirits , as well as different things meant by " contacting " them . It is my experience that more often then not , it is they who " contact " us .

 

[michel]

Telepathy and psychokinetics are not that easy to achieve either. These things are still uncharted zone of our mind. 90% of our mind is still unexplored but we are not yet developed to tap into that 90%.

I studied a lot on telepathy and one thing amazing I found out. We all do posess telepathy, something that we never observe ourselves using. When driving in India, I noticed one thing that could very well be a kind of basic telepathy where we are reading signs of each other and nither of us are comunicating in any form of bodylanguage. It happens is almost every country when you are on the road, you are so busy traveling and thinking about your destination you do not realize you are comunicating with someone on a level you never do normally.

I noticed this in India cause the roads their are chaotic and you just see a person and know exactly what he is going to do and compensate for it. It is mainly bodylanguage but on such basic level that you got to wonder how is it possible. You cant attribute it to caveman or evloution cause there were no traffic then. The process is simple, he gives you a glance and in that you know exactly what he means. He might have said, i am going to take a right over here but since your speed is more you must cross before i do it.

This kind of thing might have happened to all of you and you never pause to think how did i know what he was going to do.

When you bring your conscious brain, it brings with it doubt and its limitation. To achieve telepathy you have to cross this barrier of conscious brain without lossing your consciousness. It is quite difficult to do but once achieved you can experience things that is beyond this plane of understanding.

Talking with the dead is not possible. There is something called Cosmic Memory and when their is a riple in it you feel it as a possesion. That memory is trying to tell something and most of the time it scares you. You do not understand what is happening and not understanding causes fear that translates it as resistance to that memory and it becomes more violent.

The telepathy thing was weird; there was a guy (he and I seemd very much 'atuned' to each other). I guarantee we could walk down the road, each taking it in turn to think of a number (from 1 to a hundred), and the other would guess it; some days, it was hard to believe how much accuracy there was.............

 

[joeboonda]

Contacting Spririts?

I've told my friends before, I believe I saw the devil or a demon, that's how I know that God is real, and the Bible.

I am a Christian so I only pray to God and read my Bible and that is enough for me. However, I know folks do such things as astral-projection and meet spirit guides and such. Some can do it by going into a trance, without drugs. Others use LSD or other Psychedelics. During my searcher days, I even made one of those spiral deals some American Indians used to look into the spirit world. I used LSD, and such, and can tell you that you can go into sort of other dimension, or spirit world. What I found, was that this is not good. I have seen what I believe to be a demon or the Devil manifested in a great electric serpent with very detailed scales, it appeared 3 times while I listened to Led Zepelin II from the Led lights on my stereo. I was wide awake.

The spiral deal, I would go over to it, but I could not stare for long, the extremely forboding sense that if I did, I would release some very evil spririts and much destruction into my home. All this was many years ago, and I do not recollect everything. I do know that this spririt world, no matter how beautiful the spirit guides may seem, is in fact, the spirit world of demons. Satan himself can transform himself into an angel of light. It is very dangerous.

Now if you talking about seeing dead people, I have not done that. It is forbidden too, we are not to try to learn the future with mediums and such, we simply pray and trust God, he says he loves us, and cares for us, and wants good for us. I think many times people think they are talking to the dead, but it is actually a lying demon.

I am 40 now, and I do not go there anymore. I follow Jesus now, and his ways, and feel very much protected and under God's umbrella if you will. I do not want to step out from under his protective umbrella, for if you get in Satan's territory, he is not merciful, you will reap destruction, fear, and chaos in your life. That is my experience, I stay away from any form of occult practices and witchcraft. Not to insult anyone, I am just telling my experience.

Sincerely,

Joeboonda

 

[Dark_Waltz]

To be honest I did get some stuff about the future off the medium but it wasn't all about the future,
Astral projection....I can't do that I can't even get close I think I am too grounded

 

[michel]

I am 40 now, and I do not go there anymore. I follow Jesus now, and his ways, and feel very much protected and under God's umbrella if you will. I do not want to step out from under his protective umbrella, for if you get in Satan's territory, he is not merciful, you will reap destruction, fear, and chaos in your life. That is my experience, I stay away from any form of occult practices and witchcraft. Not to insult anyone, I am just telling my experience.

Which is perfectly good and valid advice; now, I am content with using the Tarot to meditate with, and, as you say, am content with the same feeling of 'following Jesus' and being protected by God - ( I really am convinced of the protection).

 

[LongGe123]

The way I see it with contacting spirits is this - if you die and you do indeed move on to some sort of afterlife where you live as some incorporeal being somewhere else in space, probably capable of all sorts of amazing things, why the hell would you bother talking to people back on the side of the living. Any sort afterlife would probably be vastly superior to this life in terms of how it worked, so why would anyone bother with the old? I really don't buy all this contacting spirits stuff, it just doesn't add up.

 

[Ori]

The way I see it with contacting spirits is this - if you die and you do indeed move on to some sort of afterlife where you live as some incorporeal being somewhere else in space, probably capable of all sorts of amazing things, why the hell would you bother talking to people back on the side of the living. Any sort afterlife would probably be vastly superior to this life in terms of how it worked, so why would anyone bother with the old? I really don't buy all this contacting spirits stuff, it just doesn't add up.

Some spirits seem to cling to places, i'm not sure why.
But there is something in my house, and i'm determined to find out what exactly.

 

[michel]

The way I see it with contacting spirits is this - if you die and you do indeed move on to some sort of afterlife where you live as some incorporeal being somewhere else in space, probably capable of all sorts of amazing things, why the hell would you bother talking to people back on the side of the living. Any sort afterlife would probably be vastly superior to this life in terms of how it worked, so why would anyone bother with the old? I really don't buy all this contacting spirits stuff, it just doesn't add up.

When my mother was on her death-bed (she died from Cancer), one day (because I just couldn't think of anything to say; I guess I was too upset), I said to her "This just isn't 'fair'...., what is it all about ?"

To my surprize, (she was quite lucid that day), she said "Well, if I'm allowed to, I'll come back and tell you"..........

Of course, to date, she hasn't..

 

[Dark_Waltz]

Maybe You should look harder or be more open to it

 

[Arkangel]

The way I see it with contacting spirits is this - if you die and you do indeed move on to some sort of afterlife where you live as some incorporeal being somewhere else in space, probably capable of all sorts of amazing things, why the hell would you bother talking to people back on the side of the living. Any sort afterlife would probably be vastly superior to this life in terms of how it worked, so why would anyone bother with the old? I really don't buy all this contacting spirits stuff, it just doesn't add up.

That is what i keep saying. There is no talking to the dead but that does not mean everything they are has left this plane of existence. There is something called the cosmic memory where that persons memory stays on. It is that memory that plays havoc on you. No sprit comes back but their memory implanted deep in your sub consciousness plays out like a possession or as if you are talking to the dead. You are only talking to the memory of that person.


We think on a conscious level and never involve our sub conscious. That is why when you dream of your house or any place similar to you, it seems so different than the real world. Your sub-conscious sees stuff a lot different than you do. Getting back to the point, the memory of the dead person implanted in your sub-conscious when relayed to you seems so different and you feel it is coming from an external source. A soul would never comeback to the living world, if it were possible every dead soul would be back here trying to experience that one last desire and then the next last desire. Like how we can never break the laws of the universe but only bend it, souls do the same. They bend the rules. That is where the cosmic memory steps in.



I know, I speak of these things as if they are some science or a fact. But they are a fact and science, a fact we do not understand yet. Just because we cannot prove the existence of something that does not mean it does not exist. It only means we cannot prove its existence. I have researched this for nearly 4 years now. Spent most of my time studying cultures or various nations, been to few countries to study their belief on the paranormal. I spend hours meditating Zen meditation and practice a form of self hypnosis. I know what I am talking about. I have seen it, studied it, and even experienced it. The experiences of the mind cannot be cataloged in physical terms. Science cannot explain the existence of the realm of spirits and neither can it explain death. To rely on it to explain everything is demanding too much in too little time. Our knowledge on our universe and our understanding of it needs to evolve more for us to know.

 

[Master Vigil]

Oy! :bonk: I have been working with the spirits for over 10 years. Being a low level spirit myself, I will give you some insight into the way spirits work. First off. Ouija boards DO NOT work. They are a joke, and spirits know this. If you get some kind of "contact" with it, it will be a spirit fooling around with you. You will never get correct, or honest answers with it. Another thing, this is very important... there are no evil spirits.

Through my many years, I have NEVER met a spirit whom I thought was evil. And I have met spirits who through knives at my friends, trapped people under upside down tables, locked all of the doors in the house and turned off all the electric and heat in the winter, shaking of the beds, everything! But these spirits are NOT EVIL!!! It is only because people misunderstand them that they are perceived as such.

Normally, if anything like that happens, it's because something is wrong. For instance, tree spirits getting caught in a bathroom because of renovations to the house and yard; now the spirits were scared and confused in there new environment. Wouldn't you try to break down walls, and scream if you were caught in a small space for years??

I counsel Indigo Children. And one of them was deathly afraid of one spirit in her house. It was the spirit of a dead miner who in her own words "looked so ugly, and always stared at her." How many people look ugly and stare at you? Are they necessarily evil?? Of course not. The same goes for spirits.

I have never met the devil or demons, they don't exist. There are spirits who could be perceived as such, but trust me... THEY DON"T EXIST!!! No matter what the Church says, or mediums say, or those who watch unsolved mysteries say... there are no evil spirits.

 

[jeffrey]

I know that when my wife and I moved into a house a few years back, we used to hear a child singing. Water would turn on by itself. Doors would open. Once a burner on the stove came on at 2am. 6 months after we moved in, our neighbor informed us a child had died in a house fire 8 years ago.....

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Does anyone know how to do this properly, or has anyone actually done it theselves?

I have looked on google, but end up with mostly contradictory stuff, any help would be appreciated. :162:

If you can find a good medium, you'll get something of what you're looking for.

I perfer to leave well enough alone, but I have never lost anyone that I have truly missed life my immediate family.

As a pastor, I have had a handful of people approach me with questions concerning dead folks who have tried to contact the living - no need for any boards, candles, or a medium there. I perfer to let them contact you. Just be patient.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I know that when my wife and I moved into a house a few years back, we used to hear a child singing. Water would turn on by itself. Doors would open. Once a burner on the stove came on at 2am. 6 months after we moved in, our neighbor informed us a child had died in a house fire 8 years ago.....

That's creepy.