Cops Must Have Immunity Removed

[Revoltingest]

"Qualified immunity" has been often & openly discussed recently.
It gives state & local cops immunity from prosecution for many
illegal acts. Federal cops have even greater immunity, ie, it's
"unqualified". One cannot legally sue them.

In this case, a 70 year old veteran was choked & assaulted for
no reason, & badly injured upon entering a VA hospital. He
endured permanent injuries even after 2 surgeries.
Cops often have hair triggers, ready for any pretext to brutalize
anyone within reach, as the video shows. This will not change
until all cops are much better trained, & fear being held fully
accountable for every crime they commit.

SCOTUS has made the situation worse by granting immunity,
ie, "legislating from the bench" to give cops quaisi-fascist
authority over the populace. If those justices won't change
things for the better, then perhaps legislators can be convinced
to do the job. This will mean much greater awareness of the
problem, & loud voices threatening their re-election chances.

Does this veteran have any recourse against the federal cops who assaulted him?

Watch to see that the victim did nothing wrong.
Cops just exploded upon him without cause.
Perhaps just the desire to beat someone...anyone up.

 

[Nimos]

"Qualified immunity" has been often & openly discussed recently.
It gives state & local cops immunity from prosecution for many
illegal acts. Federal cops have even greater immunity, ie, it's
"unqualified". One cannot legally sue them.

In this case, a 70 year old veteran was choked & assaulted for
no reason, & badly injured upon entering a VA hospital. He
endured permanent injuries even after 2 surgeries.
Cops often have hair triggers, ready for any pretext to brutalize
anyone within reach, as the video shows. This will not change
until all cops are much better trained, & fear being held fully
accountable for every crime they commit.

SCOTUS has made the situation worse by granting immunity,
ie, "legislating from the bench" to give cops quaisi-fascist
authority over the populace. If those justices won't change
things for the better, then perhaps legislators can be convinced
to do the job. This will mean much greater awareness of the
problem, & loud voices threatening their re-election chances.

Does this veteran have any recourse against the federal cops who assaulted him?

Watch to see that the victim did nothing wrong.
Cops just exploded upon him without cause.
Perhaps just the desire to beat someone...anyone up.

It seems very strange why they would assault him, he doesn't exactly appear to be a threat of any kind and also there are 4-5 officers? How many they need to assault a 70 old... hope they get charged with something.

 

[Revoltingest]

It seems very strange why they would assault him, he doesn't exactly appear to be a threat of any kind and also there are 4-5 officers? How many they need to assault a 70 old... hope they get charged with something.

They're federal officers.
He cannot sue.
Typically, no action will be taken.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Qualified immunity is their most effective and lethal weapon against us. Until a SC will kill it off the police must be feared and extreme caution must be practiced around them.

 

[Estro Felino]

Cops have never had any kind of penal immunity here .

Quite the opposite. Since they have sworn an oath upon the Constitution, they are subject to the Constitution and the laws like anyone else and they are supposed to set an example. To be a role model.

 

[Estro Felino]

I did watch the video.
It seems to me that this person was reluctant...it seems to me he was hesitating, going through the metal detector.

When I go to the Courthouse for work, I cross the metal detector with incredible speed...because I am in a hurry. I put the bag in the bin and I am very fast.
I say good morning to the cops and leave.

This guy does look to be hesitating.

That said... the cops' reaction is absolutely unjustified and disproportionate.
It seems to me that American cops are on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
Even in 100% calm situations.
And they really need psychiatric help.

 

[Revoltingest]

I did watch the video.
It seems to me that this person was reluctant...it seems to me he was hesitating, going through the metal detector.

When I go to the Courthouse for work, I cross the metal detector with incredible speed...because I am in ahurry. I put the bag in the bin and I am very fast.

This guys does look to be hesitating.

That said... the cops' reaction is absolitely unjustified and disproportionate.
It seems to me that American cops are on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
Even in 100% calm situations.
And they really need psychiatric help.

Perhaps this was what went thru the cop's mind....
"So you're visiting a hospital, eh.
I'll give you a reason to stay at the hospital !!!"'

Anyway, the cop on the entrance side of the
detector was still conversing with the victim.

BTW, I've noticed that when cops arrest other
cops for DUI, they'll often cuff the cop in front.
Civilians are always cuffed behind the back.
And when cops are angry, they yank arms
around violently & outside their normal range
of motion. Such injuries are fairly common.
Cops appear to often choose the most brutal
of options.

 

[Estro Felino]

Perhaps this was what went thru the cop's mind....
"So you're visiting a hospital, eh.
I'll give you a reason to stay at the hospital !!!"'

Anyway, the cop on the entrance side of the
detector was still conversing with the victim.

BTW, I've noticed that when cops arrest other
cops for DUI, they'll often cuff the cop in front.
Civilians are always cuffed behind the back.
And when cops are angry, they yank arms
around violently & outside their normal range
of motion. Such injuries are fairly common.
Cops appear to often choose the most brutal
of options.

The cops' reaction is not normal.
Regardless of what this gentleman said to them.

 

[Revoltingest]

Immunity extends to other people in government too,
eg, MI DNR (Dept of Natural Resources) agents. They've
been operating snowmobiles as part of their official duty,
but they regularly do so recklessly, & cause injury to other
people. The state has long argued that these motorized
vehicles aren't "motor vehicles" under the law, so that
victims are entitled to no compensation. Agents could
even kill you, & it's just your tough luck.

This just recently changed due to public (social media)
pressure.
Michigan loses key immunity decision in snowmobile crash | Detroit News

 

[Revoltingest]

Many cops operate like violent gangs.
This event shows a random attack & robbery of an
innocent bystander by a gang of 3, & watched by
at least 1 other cop. Fortunately, it was captured
by a surveillance camera, & posted to social media.
Imagine how many such attacks are not recorded
cuz cops steal the victim's phone.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've run across several cops in the news who apparently
find it good sport to pretend to smell alcohol or dope so
that they can arrest innocent people.
They get away with it under qualified immunity. And the
departments typically tolerate this. After all, it's just an
inconvenience, embarrassment, & cost (towing the car)
to a civilian. Only blue lives matter.

Short news video about one such corrupt cop....

 

[Aštra’el]

Qualified immunity is their most effective and lethal weapon against us. Until a SC will kill it off the police must be feared and extreme caution must be practiced around them.

There is no “against us”. The police and I are on the same side. It took me long enough to realize that and hopefully eventually you and others here will too someday. My encounters with them have gone so much more smoothly now that I am respectful, civil and cooperative with them. I no longer have anything criminal to hide, and I have developed a deep appreciation for Order over Chaos... so there is no point to being defiant and disrespectful, or behaving in a manner that makes their job more difficult.

 

[Revoltingest]

There is no “against us”. The police and I are on the same side. It took me long enough to realize that and hopefully eventually you and others here will too someday. My encounters with them have gone so much more smoothly now that I am respectful, civil and cooperative with them. I no longer have anything criminal to hide, and I have developed a deep appreciation for Order over Chaos... so there is no point to being defiant and disrespectful, or behaving in a manner that makes their job more difficult.

Being civil & respectful is useful. There are many
cops who will illegally beat, arrest, & falsely charge
you for offending them. So we better avoid triggering
their rage & vengeance.

But does anger justify illegal behavior by cops?
Must you behave like an subservient sheep, ready
to obediently bend over & spread'm as a condition
of enjoying your constitutional civil rights?
If you give up liberty for security, you deserve neither.

Also, cops will without provocation attack innocent
people who caused no trouble whatsoever.
To them, civilians are indeed the enemy.

Imagine being in car wreck, crawling out, being on
fire in agony, only to have cops drag & beat you.
Do you approve of this?

There's no telling when a viscous cop might
go off the deep end to attack an innocent person.
Do you think this man deserved his injuries?

Do you have too much money? Cops will
commit armed robbery. This is very common.
Do you approve of this?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There is no “against us”. The police and I are on the same side. It took me long enough to realize that and hopefully eventually you and others here will too someday. My encounters with them have gone so much more smoothly now that I am respectful, civil and cooperative with them. I no longer have anything criminal to hide, and I have developed a deep appreciation for Order over Chaos... so there is no point to being defiant and disrespectful, or behaving in a manner that makes their job more difficult.

I've had nothing to hide, was doing nothing illegal or wrong, and I've still been pulled over and harassed.
You think I give the cops a hard time? I'm too scared to not be on my absolute best behavior when they pull me over.
And there is so much crap, corruption, and bad behaviors I hope you and others come to adopt the mentality of "**** the police" until there are some very serious and significant overhauls and reforms.

 

[Revoltingest]

What happens when you pull over to let cops go by?
In Ohio, a reckless cop can crash into you, totals your
truck, & you are responsible for your medical & truck
replacement costs. Cops are totally immune.

 

[Revoltingest]

Dumping a kid upside down on his head on pavement.
Could cause a broken neck or head injury...even death.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Dumping a kid upside down on his head on pavement.
Could cause a broken neck or head injury...even death.

If the WWE has banned something that is basically the same thing in essence (such as piledrivers because of the getting dropped on the head thing) it should probably definitely be banned for police to use.

 

[Revoltingest]

If the WWE has banned something that is basically the same thing in essence (such as piledrivers because of the getting dropped on the head thing) it should probably definitely be banned for police to use.

Wrestlers lack immunity.

 

[averageJOE]

1. End qualified immunity
2. Make cops pay for their own liability insurance.
3. Make a percentage of settlements come from their department budget and/or their retirement plan.

Then you will see police brutality end almost overnight.

 

[averageJOE]

There is no “against us”. The police and I are on the same side. It took me long enough to realize that and hopefully eventually you and others here will too someday. My encounters with them have gone so much more smoothly now that I am respectful, civil and cooperative with them. I no longer have anything criminal to hide, and I have developed a deep appreciation for Order over Chaos... so there is no point to being defiant and disrespectful, or behaving in a manner that makes their job more difficult.

Back the Blue until it happens to you.

Always know, cops are trained to NEVER trust or respect you. Your whole attitude feeds cops egos. You are bowing down, kissing their boots, and giving up all your rights, because...you feel you have noting to hide and because they have a hard job.

It doesn't matter if you are innocent, your race, gender, age, or how "respectful" you are. They will not hesitate to throw you in a cage, beat you, or kill you.

Laws and constitutional rights are designed to protect the innocent. Which is why you must ALWAYS exercise them when dealing with cops.