Cosmic Gods

[Willamena]

But primal chaos is existing. God is existing, and because God is existing, that means existence is more than God. I'm not saying to call existence God.

And there's something beyond existing.

Because existing is true.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

And there's something beyond existing.

Because existing is true.

But truth is existing. What if they're equals?

 

[Willamena]

But truth is existing.

Things exist. True is abstract.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

That's true; true is abstract, but abstract things exist as well.

 

[Willamena]

That's true; true is abstract, but abstract things exist as well.

That's true! And I can say that that's true, but I can't say that that exists.

So true wins.

 

[Willamena]

But do you know what beats both true and exists?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

But do you know what beats both true and exists?

Well, what I meant by existence is not the word itself, but the actual action of being, God is. Hard to explain since explaining it would be contradicting it.

 

[Straw Dog]

But primal chaos is existing. God is existing, and because God is existing, that means existence is more than God. I'm not saying to call existence God.

Like I said: that which is beyond.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Existence is beyond primal chaos. Nothing is beyond existence because it would have to exist, which makes it not above it.

 

[NIX]

I've heard these kinds of 'characters' referred to as 'ascended masters'.

Not sure what the exact prerequisites for 'god status' are/would be.

 

[Straw Dog]

Existence is beyond primal chaos. Nothing is beyond existence because it would have to exist, which makes it not above it.

Primal chaos is just a metaphor for that which is beyond all distinction-making and human comprehension. You're free to use a different metaphor.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I wouldn't see much reason for reverence if their content and superior selves have no concern for helping others achieve the same.

Good point. As a Theistic Satanist, I believe that Satan has an interest in helping us attain such a state so that reverence towards Him is called for, but only if one feels so inclined. I don't believe that He would ever force anyone to worship Him or that He even needs it. By the way, "worship" is defined as reverential love. It can be a feeling as much as a practice and certainly doesn't inherently imply the sort of blind faith or servitude you see some quarters.

As to the OP's conception of gods, it reminds me of my own musing of where Satan and His allied deities came from. Maybe They went through Their own evolution on another planet or in another realm (certainly possible with the multiverse theory) and now seek to help other sentient life forms ascend to Godhood.

 

[Amechania]

Perhaps the process is necessary. Maybe they can't or won't force unnatural transformations. We need to evolve on our own and earn self-mastery rather than it just being handed to us. They don't want to treat us like children.

Granted they're social beings, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't have also evolved ethically, culturally, and spiritually along with the technological. Any species that fails to master their own nature would destroy itself long before reaching the omega point.

I call these beings "gods" because they would hypothetically be the most powerful and all-knowing intelligent entities in existence. They would be at the pinnacle of transcendence in every way. Plus, most other modern notions of deity are extremely vague tending to mean everything and nothing at the same time, which I don't find particularly useful.

Have you ever read "Childhood's End"?

 

[zenzero]

Friend Straw Dog,

Do you think cosmic gods could exist?

Not sure what you really mean but find at most times what we imagine have already been imagined, researched found analysed and availble in Hindu or Buddhist scriptures.
May be this covers what you speak off, from Buddhism:

The Thirty-one Planes of Existence: http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/allexistence.pdf
or maybe this: http://thichhangdat.com/Introductio...x_realms/Six_Buddhist_Realms_of_Existence.pdf

Love & rgds