Could the human brain be the source of the human soul?

[SalixIncendium]

Again, cars have not been assumed to be gods.

This Jeep begs to differ...

 

[DavidFirth]

REALLY??! Have you TRIED pizza??

I would certainly argue pizza is divine.

(And yes, that's a double entendre.)

Do you want to get reported for trolling? You're one post away...

(the Jeep post is too silly to count)

 

[SalixIncendium]

Now research it. Don't ignore Christians' research on it and don't do selective research. You might just learn something.

I'm not disputing they've researched it or ignoring. I'm disputing the fact that you have any evidence. If you did, this conversation would have been over on the last page.

 

[DavidFirth]

I'm not disputing they've researched it or ignoring. I'm disputing the fact that you have any evidence. If you did, this conversation would have been over on the last page.

The fact that you don't think there is any evidence to support it tells me you are either too ignorant or too stupid to continue this conversation.

Have a good day, sir.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Do you want to get reported for trolling? You're one post away...

(the Jeep post is too silly to count)

Really?! You continue to insist on the existence of evidence but refuse to provide any? Trolling? Yes, for the evidence you insisted existed. You continue to respond to my posts, but refuse to provide any evidence you so vehemently insisted exists. But, but yeah, you go right on ahead and report me for trolling.

 

[SalixIncendium]

The fact that you don't think there is any evidence to support it tells me you are either too ignorant or too stupid to continue this conversation.

Have a good day, sir.

Ad hominem attacks don't support your claim either.

 

[Kenny]

Are you saying that resurrections happen all the time?

Or just that doctors make mistakes?

Or are you saying that the point at which life system failure becomes irreversible can be very hard to detect?

Are you saying that it couldn't be true just because you don't believe? Or will you accept the empirical and verifiable evidence!

Basically, what you are saying is, "since it doesn't match what I say, it is a mistake". That's flat-earth thinking.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Well, he's not mentioned in the Bible so I don't know who or what he/it is.

Fair enough.
The same theory would hold for Thor, Isis, Mercury, etc, but in case you're interested...

Tiddalik - Wikipedia

Point is, there are God's we all don't believe in, due to lack of evidence. That's all.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"It isn't self evident"

It is self evident to me, perhaps your mind is not flexible enough linguistically and you are too ridged with conceptual interpretations. You should learn how to listen and communicate in a broader sense. I am simply tired of trying to narrow in the scope for people who can't seem to consider multiple things at once with perhaps even views they don't hold.

So, in other words, "self evident" means "I want to pretend I'm smarter than you and instead of providing evidence when requested I'll try to make myself feel better by posting a rude and condescending post by trying to make my lack of evidence seem like nothing because what I'm speaking of is so apparent and obvious and easy for everyone to find....except those who don't do it my way."

 

[shunyadragon]

That's a laugh. You don't need any evidence that God does not exist, yet you believe He doesn't.

That is not what atheists believe. You need to reword it to make it coherent.

Atheists believe there is not any objective verifiable evidence that there are any worlds beyond our physical existence, including any worlds of God(s). Any testimony from the many diverse conflicting believers is not consistent in their beliefs in God(s), which is why some atheists ask, 'Which God is the real God or God(s), if one is to believe in a God or Gods?

 

[sun rise]

That is not what atheists believe. You need to reword it to make it coherent.

Atheists believe there is not any objective verifiable evidence that there are any worlds beyond our physical existence, including any worlds of God(s). Any testimony from the many diverse conflicting believers is not consistent in their beliefs in God(s), which is why some atheists ask, 'Which God is the real God or God(s), if one is to believe in a God or Gods?

To which some would answer using the story of the Blind Men and the Elephant to illustrate that all belief systems are partial views of the divine reality

 

[LukeS]

Just an idea: if phenomenology is an higher order emergent feature resulting from brain activity (cells interacting with one another etc), maybe the soul is a higher order feature resulting from the interaciton of phenomenon with themselves (i.e. emerges as a result of our existential condition, eg the phenomenal me interacting with the world of appearances).

Dimension1) Brain activity -> Dimension 2) Phenomenal activity -> Dimension 3) Soul activity

 

[shunyadragon]

To which some would answer using the story of the Blind Men and the Elephant to illustrate that all belief systems are partial views of the divine reality

Like the cartoon!

This is what I believe, but the belief in many diverse 'my God(s) is the only God(s)' prevails in many religions and beliefs.

I was being empathetic to the atheist perspective dealing with dominance of religions like Christianity, Judaism and Islam clinging to ancient scripture as the only way. Many Jews are atheist or agnostic because of this.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

But you aren't claiming pizza is some sort of god, are you?

Cheese's Crust, our Savory, delivered by Little Caesarean (in 30 minutes or less), how grated thou art! Pizza on earth and gouda will to men.

 

[DavidFirth]

Cheese's Crust, our Savory, delivered by Little Caesarean (in 30 minutes or less), how grated thou art! Pizza on earth and gouda will to men.

You must be a paramount of intelligence and wisdom, great one.

 

[shunyadragon]

You must be a paramount of intelligence and wisdom, great one.

The existence of a paramount of intelligence is an assumption by both if us, believing in "God," Unfortunately such assertions as you make are incoherent without a meaningful argument that would convince non-believers.

 

[Kenny]

The existence of a paramount of intelligence is an assumption by both if us, believing in "God," Unfortunately such assertions as you make are incoherent without a meaningful argument that would convince non-believers.

I disagree with your logic.

That fact that if it doesn't convince a "non-believer" does not translate that it is an incoherent and void of a meaningful argument. It may be a very coherent and meaningful argument that you simply don't agree with.

 

[shunyadragon]

I disagree with your logic.

That fact that if it doesn't convince a "non-believer" does not translate that it is an incoherent and void of a meaningful argument. It may be a very coherent and meaningful argument that you simply don't agree with.

This is true, but in reference to the arguments presented by DavidFirth would not qualify as a coherent argument.

There are two problems with the better apologist arguments for the existence of God:

(1) The first problem is the most arguments are based on old assumptions by theologians like Thomas Aquinas, Saint Augustine, the philosophies of Aristotle. These problems include outdated concepts of infinity and the argument of what constitutes beginnings. These arguments also lean heavily on 'begging the question.'

(2) The arguments by many apologists that all people innately know that God exists, and atheists and other philosophical naturalists are denying and dishonest about what they know in rejecting the belief that God exists. Part of this belief is based on the writings of Paul.

Of course, few if any philosophical naturalists believe it is proven that God does not exist, but most often believe there is no reason to believe.

The first step is both Atheists and Theists need to be more honest about what the other believes, and not confrontational with assumptions that are often misleading if not false.

 

[shunyadragon]

REALLY??! Have you TRIED pizza??

I would certainly argue pizza is divine.

(And yes, that's a double entendre.)

I worship Pizza regularly. I have developed a heretical whole wheat cracked grain Pizza that put me on the wanted list to Pizzafied in a brick oven.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I worship Pizza regularly. I have developed a heretical whole wheat cracked grain Pizza that put me on the wanted list to Pizzafied in a brick oven.

Let us pray:

Cheese's Crust, our Savory, born of extra virgin olive oil, delivered by Little Caesarean (in 30 minutes or less), who has come for our salivation, and who was flung onto the wall face first, where he stuck and dried for our sins: How grated thou art! Pizza on earth and gouda will to men.