COVID masks how effective are they

[Nimos]

The world largest test of the effectiveness of using masks have just been completed by a danish research team, with some interesting results.

The test was done on 6000 people, roughly half wearing masks and the other half not. All the participants were to follow the danish government guideline for how to behave during the period. Which means that it must have been done in a period where social distancing where the only guideline at the time.

Of the 3000 that used a mask for a period of 30 days, 1.8% got corona and for those not wearing one, it was 2.1% (roughly 15-20% difference)

Now it is important to point out that the study only looked at how much a mask would help prevent a healthy person getting the virus. And NOT how much a mask helps prevent an infected person from spreading it.

They have examined masks from people with Covid and those masks were filled with the virus on the inside.

So it seems that wearing a standard mask (the blue medical ones) might not do much in regards to protecting oneself, but that it is probably more important for people that are infected to use them to help reduce the spread. Obviously since it might take days to noticed it, it is still recommended for everyone to use them.

I think it makes a lot of sense, that if a lot of people seemingly do not care about using masks, these have little effect in protecting people, so it really requires those idiots that refuse to use them to take some responsibility, as they are ruining it for the rest.

The whole study can be read here:
ACP Journals

 

[exchemist]

The world largest test of the effectiveness of using masks have just been completed by a danish research team, with some interesting results.

The test was done on 6000 people, roughly half wearing masks and the other half not. All the participants were to follow the danish government guideline for how to behave during the period. Which means that it must have been done in a period where social distancing where the only guideline at the time.

Of the 3000 that used a mask for a period of 30 days, 1.8% got corona and for those not wearing one, it was 2.1% (roughly 15-20% difference)

Now it is important to point out that the study only looked at how much a mask would help prevent a healthy person getting the virus. And NOT how much a mask helps prevent an infected person from spreading it.

They have examined masks from people with Covid and those masks were filled with the virus on the inside.

So it seems that wearing a standard mask (the blue medical ones) might not do much in regards to protecting oneself, but that it is probably more important for people that are infected to use them to help reduce the spread. Obviously since it might take days to noticed it, it is still recommended for everyone to use them.

I think it makes a lot of sense, that if a lot of people seemingly do not care about using masks, these have little effect in protecting people, so it really requires those idiots that refuse to use them to take some responsibility, as they are ruining it for the rest.

The whole study can be read here:
ACP Journals

How pointless. It has always been understood, and clearly stated from the outset, that the benefit of a mask is principally to avoid infecting others, not to stop yourself getting infected. So this study adds almost nothing to our knowledge of the effectiveness of masks.

What we need is the far more difficult study on how much mask-wearing reduces transmission, other factors being equal. Now that would be worth reading about.

Meanwhile, I have little doubt that this useless study will be waved about, with comical indignation, by those imbeciles that think mask-wearing somehow infringes their human rights.

 

[Goddess Kit]

I remember years ago when Americans were laughing at the Asians for wearing their masks. Well, it's certainly no laughing matter now for America.

 

[Nimos]

How pointless. It has always been understood, and clearly stated from the outset, that the benefit of a mask is principally to avoid infecting others, not to stop yourself getting infected. So this study adds almost nothing to our knowledge of the effectiveness of masks.

What we need is the far more difficult study on how much mask-wearing reduces transmission, other factors being equal. Now that would be worth reading about.

Meanwhile, I have little doubt that this useless study will be waved about, with comical indignation, by those imbeciles that think mask-wearing somehow infringes their human rights.

Well all studies are important, whether or not they give us the results we were hoping for.

This might help in regards to the next pandemic, how to design masks in the future for better protection etc. If we are just guessing left right and center about things we don't think is important, then we don't get the correct information. Let's assume that the results showed that it reduced the chance by 90%, then the study wouldn't have been useless?, but we don't know before someone make a good study of it.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The world largest test of the effectiveness of using masks have just been completed by a danish research team, with some interesting results.

The test was done on 6000 people, roughly half wearing masks and the other half not. All the participants were to follow the danish government guideline for how to behave during the period. Which means that it must have been done in a period where social distancing where the only guideline at the time.

Of the 3000 that used a mask for a period of 30 days, 1.8% got corona and for those not wearing one, it was 2.1% (roughly 15-20% difference)

Now it is important to point out that the study only looked at how much a mask would help prevent a healthy person getting the virus. And NOT how much a mask helps prevent an infected person from spreading it.

They have examined masks from people with Covid and those masks were filled with the virus on the inside.

So it seems that wearing a standard mask (the blue medical ones) might not do much in regards to protecting oneself, but that it is probably more important for people that are infected to use them to help reduce the spread. Obviously since it might take days to noticed it, it is still recommended for everyone to use them.

I think it makes a lot of sense, that if a lot of people seemingly do not care about using masks, these have little effect in protecting people, so it really requires those idiots that refuse to use them to take some responsibility, as they are ruining it for the rest.

The whole study can be read here:
ACP Journals

It was good until you called people idiots. Here is something I found about a week ago.

Pro-mask or anti-mask? Your moral beliefs probably predict your stance

Morality and COVID-19

"I (the article author) found that Americans, on the whole, associated all three behaviors with the “caring” and “equality” foundations. Indeed, staying at home when you don’t need to go out shows you care about others – I call this the caring foundation. But staying at home helps flatten the curve only if everyone does it – the equality foundation. The same can be said for wearing face masks and social distancing..."

It talks about why people wear and don't wear masks "in relationship" to their morals about society, people they love, and so have you. I guess the strength of accusations depends on why and the nature of people's morals rather than their intentions (which doesn't reduce the spread) but the actual wearing the mask regardless how they feel about it.

 

[Nimos]

I remember years ago when Americans were laughing at the Asians for wearing their masks. Well, it's certainly no laughing matter now for America.

I don't think it is anywhere in the world anymore

 

[Nimos]

It was good until you called people idiots. Here is something I found about a week ago.

Pro-mask or anti-mask? Your moral beliefs probably predict your stance

Morality and COVID-19

"I (the article author) found that Americans, on the whole, associated all three behaviors with the “caring” and “equality” foundations. Indeed, staying at home when you don’t need to go out shows you care about others – I call this the caring foundation. But staying at home helps flatten the curve only if everyone does it – the equality foundation. The same can be said for wearing face masks and social distancing..."

It talks about why people wear and don't wear masks "in relationship" to their morals about society, people they love, and so have you. I guess the strength of accusations depends on why and the nature of people's morals rather than their intentions (which doesn't reduce the spread) but the actual wearing the mask regardless how they feel about it.

Well people can't really show their feelings to someone if they are dead.

Furthermore, I couldn't really care about people that feel that they are being morally violated due to this, we are not talking about wearing masks for the rest of our lives here.

Besides that, how disrespectful are these people towards those that do, when the reason they wear masks helps protect the people those that don't want to use them love? Yet they themselves feel morally violated or that they are too cool to do it, or whatever ridiculous excuse they have? Are you kidding me?

So I really think they are idiots with an inferior moral standard to those that do wear them for the sake of everyone.

And its probably the same types of idiots that run a red light while yelling "Freedom!!" why do they stop at those?

 

[Altfish]

The world largest test of the effectiveness of using masks have just been completed by a danish research team, with some interesting results.

The test was done on 6000 people, roughly half wearing masks and the other half not. All the participants were to follow the danish government guideline for how to behave during the period. Which means that it must have been done in a period where social distancing where the only guideline at the time.

Of the 3000 that used a mask for a period of 30 days, 1.8% got corona and for those not wearing one, it was 2.1% (roughly 15-20% difference)

Now it is important to point out that the study only looked at how much a mask would help prevent a healthy person getting the virus. And NOT how much a mask helps prevent an infected person from spreading it.

They have examined masks from people with Covid and those masks were filled with the virus on the inside.

So it seems that wearing a standard mask (the blue medical ones) might not do much in regards to protecting oneself, but that it is probably more important for people that are infected to use them to help reduce the spread. Obviously since it might take days to noticed it, it is still recommended for everyone to use them.

I think it makes a lot of sense, that if a lot of people seemingly do not care about using masks, these have little effect in protecting people, so it really requires those idiots that refuse to use them to take some responsibility, as they are ruining it for the rest.

The whole study can be read here:
ACP Journals

Totally misunderstanding why you need to wear a mask!!

IT IS TO PROTECT OTHERS, NOT YOU.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Totally misunderstanding why you need to wear a mask!!

IT IS TO PROTECT OTHERS, NOT YOU.

BOTH You ideally don't want to catch the virus from others, so wear a mask to block whatever particles that spread from them if they are sick. Wear a mask so you won't get others sick if you have symptoms yourself.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Totally misunderstanding why you need to wear a mask!!

IT IS TO PROTECT OTHERS, NOT YOU.

Did ylu read that? (I don't think you did)

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Well people can't really show their feelings to someone if they are dead.

Furthermore, I couldn't really care about people that feel that they are being morally violated due to this, we are not talking about wearing masks for the rest of our lives here.

Besides that, how disrespectful are these people towards those that do, when the reason they wear masks helps protect the people those that don't want to use them love? Yet they themselves feel morally violated or that they are too cool to do it, or whatever ridiculous excuse they have? Are you kidding me?

So I really think they are idiots with an inferior moral standard to those that do wear them for the sake of everyone.

And its probably the same types of idiots that run a red light while yelling "Freedom!!" why do they stop at those?

It's not political just giving a reason behind people do things not a justification of whether its right or wrong-that depends on the person. The article is talking about why people "do" wear masks and their morals behind them not about who should and shouldn't wear masks.

 

[Altfish]

Did ylu read that? (I don't think you did)

Yes, did I misunderstand it?

 

[Nimos]

Totally misunderstanding why you need to wear a mask!!

IT IS TO PROTECT OTHERS, NOT YOU.

What do you mean it's a misunderstanding? Its a study made to test how much a mask helps protect a healthy person.

 

[Altfish]

What do you mean it's a misunderstanding? Its a study made to test how much a mask helps protect a healthy person.

Yes, I know. It doesn't protect YOU. It protects people you interact with.
So the study is daft.

 

[Nimos]

It's not political just giving a reason behind people do things not a justification of whether its right or wrong-that depends on the person. The article is talking about why people "do" wear masks and their morals behind them not about who should and shouldn't wear masks.

I get that, people have lots of excuses for not wanting to do it. Obviously some have health conditions which is fair enough. But I really don't think people that uses violations of their rights or whatever as excuse is being reasonable.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes, did I misunderstand it?

You seemed to miss the part where it says what you claimed it didn't.

They have examined masks from people with Covid and those masks were filled with the virus on the inside.

So it seems that wearing a standard mask (the blue medical ones) might not do much in regards to protecting oneself, but that it is probably more important for people that are infected to use them to help reduce the spread. Obviously since it might take days to noticed it, it is still recommended for everyone to use them.

 

[Nimos]

Yes, I know. It doesn't protect YOU. It protects people you interact with.
So the study is daft.

It is not, ill quote this from before:

Well all studies are important, whether or not they give us the results we were hoping for.

This might help in regards to the next pandemic, how to design masks in the future for better protection etc. If we are just guessing left right and center about things we don't think is important, then we don't get the correct information. Let's assume that the results showed that it reduced the chance by 90%, then the study wouldn't have been useless?, but we don't know before someone make a good study of it.

Besides that wearing mask even for a healthy person, still seem to reduce the chance.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I get that, people have lots of excuses for not wanting to do it. Obviously some have health conditions which is fair enough. But I really don't think people that uses violations of their rights or whatever as excuse is being reasonable.

The article isn't excuses. It's saying the reasons behind people wear mask (that DO wear mask not about those who do not). Some do it for authority, some for others, while others wear masks because they are equality focused-you wear it, I wear it, we all wear it.

Excuses would be their saying they "don't" wear masks for these reasons. The article is saying people DO wear masks because of these common reasons. It's not political and about people taking sides and calling them idiots aren't really helping with the actual reasons why people do the things they do whether its why they wear masks, why they don't, and the psychology and study behind it.

If I chose from the article, I'm an equality person. So, it's hard to take sides when I see the justification of the reasons (not the article's intent) regardless if they wear them or not.

"Pro-mask or anti-mask? Your moral beliefs probably predict your stance." Your morals predicts your stance. It's not talking about excuses and justifications of which stance is right or wrong just the reasons behind why we do what we do.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I get that, people have lots of excuses for not wanting to do it. Obviously some have health conditions which is fair enough. But I really don't think people that uses violations of their rights or whatever as excuse is being reasonable.

Nimos, the article isn't meant to take sides so what you're saying has nothing to do with reasons behind why people do wear masks.

Oh. Also, the article talks about why people DO wear mask not why they don't.

 

[Nimos]

Nimos, the article isn't meant to take sides so what you're saying has nothing to do with reasons behind why people do wear masks.

Oh. Also, the article talks about why people DO wear mask not why they don't.

Ok I see, I have to admit I read it rather fast And its about how to reach each group so they are more "willing" to wear masks.

But I still don't really think it change the fact that those that choose to not do it are idiots

Because it should be obvious by now, that this thing is killing people, it hurt the economy and the lives of many people. You have a global scientific community doing their best to guide people on how to handle this. You have global efforts working tireless trying to make vaccines. Yet these people still can't be reached and requires special "attention" to understand it, I honestly think that is an expression of being slightly stupid, if a person doesn't get that, refuse to accept it or think it's a huge conspiracy. Remember that some believed and might still do, that the 5G network or what it was were helping in spreading it. I really don't have a better word for such people than they are idiots.