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Creationism is an insult to God.

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Creationism and literal interpretations of the Torah as 'facts' seem to belittle God's creative abilities.
As if God were unable to proscribe physical laws and natural processes, and instead had to constantly interfere with and fix His own creation with Law breaking 'miracles' to get the results He wanted.
The need to interfere with His own creation shows a gross incompetence on the Designers part.
The Creationists appeal to ignorance is an even bigger slap in the face to God.
Questioning and denying the very natural Laws that God put into place in order to justify their acceptance of the creation myths written by men a little over 2300 years ago.
Putting their faith in mans written word rather than God's own creative masterpiece all around them.
The word of God is written in every decaying atom, every light particle, every fossilized remain, our very own genetic code.
God's true priests are the physicists, geologists, biologists, astrophysicists, cosmologists and other research scientists who constantly strive to find out the how and why of the universe.
They do not have to believe in God. They just have to believe in the empirical evidence they find.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I agree.

I realized a while ago that if I were to believe in a God who created the universe, then I'd view every atom as just as much His work as any scripture. Every part of the universe would potentially be a glimpse into the mind of God, and because of this, lying about the sciences (i.e. the study of God's creation, in that viewpoint) would be an especially perverse form of blasphemy.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Creationism and literal interpretations of the Torah as 'facts' seem to belittle God's creative abilities.
As if God were unable to proscribe physical laws and natural processes, and instead had to constantly interfere with and fix His own creation with Law breaking 'miracles' to get the results He wanted.
But he did. Simply witness the flood. The natural process that was supposed to produce an acceptable humanity failed, which prompted him to start over. Then there was the "law breaking" resurrection of the dead that he used to again "save" humanity.
 
Creationism and literal interpretations of the Torah as 'facts' seem to belittle God's creative abilities.
As if God were unable to proscribe physical laws and natural processes, and instead had to constantly interfere with and fix His own creation with Law breaking 'miracles' to get the results He wanted.
The need to interfere with His own creation shows a gross incompetence on the Designers part.
The Creationists appeal to ignorance is an even bigger slap in the face to God.
Questioning and denying the very natural Laws that God put into place in order to justify their acceptance of the creation myths written by men a little over 2300 years ago.
Putting their faith in mans written word rather than God's own creative masterpiece all around them.
The word of God is written in every decaying atom, every light particle, every fossilized remain, our very own genetic code.
God's true priests are the physicists, geologists, biologists, astrophysicists, cosmologists and other research scientists who constantly strive to find out the how and why of the universe.
They do not have to believe in God. They just have to believe in the empirical evidence they find.

You are entitled to these opinions, and that was interesting reading your beliefs but it just sounds like you have alot of anger in you, i have spoken to a number of creationists and they are nice people you do not need to be angry with them. My opinions are the holy books are all a blessing to mankind, the bible, the hindu scriptures etc. They are taken as literal truth by a number of people and they should be read as literal truth. Evolution is not found in the bible, the hindu scriptures, the torah, the koran or any other holy book, you can continue to believe creationism is an insult to God and im sure theres many creationists who believe evolution is an insult to God it works both ways. But fact is the holy books (most of them) side with the creationists. Nearly every holy book has a creation story. If you believe these creation stories are not true that is up to you but these creation stories are found in every culture throughout the world, so there clearly is truth in creation.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
You are entitled to these opinions, and that was interesting reading your beliefs but it just sounds like you have alot of anger in you, i have spoken to a number of creationists and they are nice people you do not need to be angry with them. My opinions are the holy books are all a blessing to mankind, the bible, the hindu scriptures etc. They are taken as literal truth by a number of people and they should be read as literal truth. Evolution is not found in the bible, the hindu scriptures, the torah, the koran or any other holy book, you can continue to believe creationism is an insult to God and im sure theres many creationists who believe evolution is an insult to God it works both ways. But fact is the holy books (most of them) side with the creationists. Nearly every holy book has a creation story. If you believe these creation stories are not true that is up to you but these creation stories are found in every culture throughout the world, so there clearly is truth in creation.
Silly MiniB,

I am not angry at anyone.
I do, however, find intentional ignorance to be an affront to reason and to any concept of God one might have.
 

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
Creationism and literal interpretations of the Torah as 'facts' seem to belittle God's creative abilities.
As if God were unable to proscribe physical laws and natural processes, and instead had to constantly interfere with and fix His own creation with Law breaking 'miracles' to get the results He wanted.
The need to interfere with His own creation shows a gross incompetence on the Designers part.
The Creationists appeal to ignorance is an even bigger slap in the face to God.
Questioning and denying the very natural Laws that God put into place in order to justify their acceptance of the creation myths written by men a little over 2300 years ago.
Putting their faith in mans written word rather than God's own creative masterpiece all around them.
The word of God is written in every decaying atom, every light particle, every fossilized remain, our very own genetic code.
God's true priests are the physicists, geologists, biologists, astrophysicists, cosmologists and other research scientists who constantly strive to find out the how and why of the universe.
They do not have to believe in God. They just have to believe in the empirical evidence they find.

I agree with you on a lot of it.

We could argue over the scientists being the true priests, but they definitely play a key part in understanding the methods.
 
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Silly MiniB,

I am not angry at anyone.
I do, however, find intentional ignorance to be an affront to reason and to any concept of God one might have.

The title of this thread come on it's a bit harsh, creationism an insult to God? Do you honestly believe that deep down. It's an insult to believe God created you? Are there any creationists on this forum? This is a religious forum but all i see is people attacking creationism. Creationism really is not bad. Think about suicide bombers blowing people up in the world they are bad... if you want to moan about them id support you.
 
MiniBoglins, how do you reconcile the vast differences in creation stories then?



Tumbleweed, I totally agree with your OP. :)

If you strip off different languages and the fact that they have been written down by different types of people, and start comparing each creation story you will see some great similarities. The native american creation stories for example are very similar to what is found in the bible.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
The title of this thread come on it's a bit harsh, creationism an insult to God? Do you honestly believe that deep down.
Yes. I do.
It's an insult to believe God created you? Are there any creationists on this forum? This is a religious forum but all i see is people attacking creationism. Creationism really is not bad.

Yes, there are many Creationists on this forum and yes Creationism supports an ignorance of reality and suppression of the natural sciences, so it is 'that bad'.
Think about suicide bombers blowing people up in the world they are bad... if you want to moan about them id support you.

http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...ebates/95360-should-we-fear-christianity.html
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
If you strip off different languages and the fact that they have been written down by different types of people, and start comparing each creation story you will see some great similarities. The native american creation stories for example are very similar to what is found in the bible.

And thats a perfect example of why we can be sure that creation myths are false.
 
And thats a perfect example of why we can be sure that creation myths are false.

The fact that there are great similarities doesn't it point to the fact that the creation stories are true? Different civilizations 1000s of miles away from eachother have very similar details in their creation stories how do you explain this?
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
If you strip off different languages and the fact that they have been written down by different types of people, and start comparing each creation story you will see some great similarities. The native american creation stories for example are very similar to what is found in the bible.

But not all of them are, for example, Mbombo (vomiting up the sun, moon, etc) does not fit the story of Ngai. These do not match the Hawaiian story, which does not fit the story of the Maori, which does not fit the Egyptian mythological story of Heliopolis (a masturbating deity). These do not match the Yoruba creation story (bringing a rooster from Heaven, the Ainu (creator deity sends an animal to create land) or Mayan (three tries to make humanity). These do not match the Norse story where Ymir was killed and his body made the world.

These do not fit in with the Vedic or Biblical stories.

There are common categories they all fit into: Creation from chaos, from nothing, emerging from something, divine descent, or a world parent of some kind.

They cannot all be right.


I go by evolution and still consider myself a Hindu. :)
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
The fact that there are great similarities doesn't it point to the fact that the creation stories are true? Different civilizations 1000s of miles away from eachother have very similar details in their creation stories how do you explain this?

No, it means that we(humans) are very similar creatures, and we view the world in a similar way. It shouldn't be surprising that the creation myths have similarities, however they all aren't the same, they have many differences.
 

St Giordano Bruno

Well-Known Member
If one defines God as the personification of honesty, and truth and its entire moral attributes then creationism is an insult to God in the extreme.
 
If one defines God as the personification of honesty, and truth and its entire moral attributes then creationism is an insult to God in the extreme.

Well all of the holy books in the world support creationism (creation stories). So it's really a bit silly if you are saying Creationism is an insult to God. The holy books support creationism so basically you are saying all of the worlds holy books are an insult to God.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
Creationism includes more than 'God created the world exactly 6,000 years ago'.
 
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