Creationism is an insult to God.

[tumbleweed41]

It relates to the OP because your appear to be denying in the OP that, based on some bizzar idea, that God has not made His presense intensly felt in and of His creation. In a round about fashion this is intirely in line with Unformitarianism. At the very least uniformatarianims is a card board cut out of a "foundation" used to remove God from the equation, in addition it opens the door to panthesim, deism and all manner of other faulty theistic belief systems. i.e God ignited the flame, said "right my work is done here" and went to watch the cricket, so to speak?

If Uniformatarianism was required for ALL science, then ALL science would cease to exist. The following points highlight the inadequacy of Uniformitarianism.

1 Volcanism and Igneous Rocks
2. Mountains
3. Continental Ice Sheets
4. Sedimentation
5. Fossil Grave Yards
6. Coal Beds
7. Foot prints of extinct Animals
8. Living Fossils
9. Rock Formations out of Sequence

The current time scale was frozen in essentially it's present form by 1840. Thats some fact for you to wrangle with. I think facts superceed the need to employ what ever your concept of logic is. This isn't Spock stuff, it's fact. Evidently something your brand of science has no interest in whatsoever.

Heres a little truck load of hate for you/evidence that refutes not only Uniformity but also evolution. I'm a lover not a fighter. When are you coming around to lock me up for teaching my children about our wonderful awesome God and His word ??????

Off course not every body knows they went to moon in a holly wood studio. However bringing "Uniformity to it's concluion", Phylisophically speaking wouldnt there be a parrallel "me" on every rock in the solar system?

First off, you seem to be confusing the outdated and discredited geological Uniformatarianism of the 1800's with the model of uniformatarianism of physics that states that the natural laws of physics are universal.
Secondly, your conclusions about uniformatarianism do not follow the facts.
And third, why the strawman argument about what you teach your children and hate?

 

[painted wolf]

Don't you know, science hasn't changed since the 1800's?

That's why creationists haven't changed their arguments since then.

wa:do

 

[David M]

Obvioulsy the law of Gravity doesn't irrefutably proof uniformatarianism, because edvidently gravity on the moon effects human beings differently than it does on earth, again, not uniformly.

No. Gravity on the moon affects human beings on the moon exactly in the same way as it affects us on earth and absolutely in line with the laws of Gravity.

If Uniformatarianism was required for ALL science, then ALL science would cease to exist. The following points highlight the inadequacy of Uniformitarianism.

1 Volcanism and Igneous Rocks
2. Mountains
3. Continental Ice Sheets
4. Sedimentation
5. Fossil Grave Yards
6. Coal Beds
7. Foot prints of extinct Animals
8. Living Fossils
9. Rock Formations out of Sequence

The current time scale was frozen in essentially it's present form by 1840. Thats some fact for you to wrangle with. I think facts superceed the need to employ what ever your concept of logic is. This isn't Spock stuff, it's fact. Evidently something your brand of science has no interest in whatsoever.

That is the 3rd time that you have posted this garbage, suppose you try and explain how Uniformatarianism does not adequately explain any of these items?

 

[painted wolf]

No. Gravity on the moon affects human beings on the moon exactly in the same way as it affects us on earth and absolutely in line with the laws of Gravity.



That is the 3rd time that you have posted this garbage, suppose you try and explain how Uniformatarianism does not adequately explain any of these items?

OMG.... Gravity :biglaugh:

I missed that... thank for the giggles.

wa:do

 

[Thief]

dont blame me because I cannot reverse the brainwashing some people are effected with.

Your cartoons speak of your bias and prejudice as much as anything else.
And your display is rooted in the past.

I suspect that is where your motivation actually comes from.

 

[outhouse]

Your cartoons speak of your bias and prejudice as much as anything else.
And your display is rooted in the past.

I suspect that is where your motivation actually comes from.

that is the same exact thinking as creation down to a T. yet the creation myth still survives today.

thanks for the bump

 

[Thief]

that is the same exact thinking as creation down to a T. yet the creation myth still survives today.

thanks for the bump

And had you been 'reading' my handiwork....
you would know...I'm not the typical 'creationist'

Thanks for the bump.

 

[outhouse]

And had you been 'reading' my handiwork....
you would know...I'm not the typical 'creationist'

Thanks for the bump.

it doesnt matter what kind of a myth you want to pedal

reality does not follow imagination.

your a creationist fine, have any proof?? didnt think so

 

[Thief]

it doesnt matter what kind of a myth you want to pedal

reality does not follow imagination.

your a creationist fine, have any proof?? didnt think so

Without your imagination there are no problems you can solve.
No conflict you can resolve.

Think you are stuck.
Blind and will not see.

And I am not the typical creationist.

 

[tumbleweed41]

And had you been 'reading' my handiwork....
you would know...I'm not the typical 'creationist'

Thanks for the bump.

it doesnt matter what kind of a myth you want to pedal

reality does not follow imagination.

your a creationist fine, have any proof?? didnt think so

This is not a thread for attacking every concept of creationism. Nor does it address the theistic evolution espoused by some.
This is about how YEC and typical ID, in their blatant and willful ignorance of the very natural laws of the Universe, insult God by reducing God to parlor tricks and simple unimaginative supernatural magic, rather than giving God the credit to be able to work with the very laws he/she/it put into place billions of years ago.

For the purpose of this argument, we can even say that God had a hand in the formation of initial life, but overwhelming empirical evidence shows that life has been evolving naturally every since.

 

[Thief]

This is not a thread for attacking every concept of creationism. Nor does it address the theistic evolution espoused by some.
This is about how YEC and typical ID, in their blatant and willful ignorance of the very natural laws of the Universe, insult God by reducing God to parlor tricks and simple unimaginative supernatural magic, rather than giving God the credit to be able to work with the very laws he/she/it put into place billions of years ago.

For the purpose of this argument, we can even say that God had a hand in the formation of initial life, but overwhelming empirical evidence shows that life has been evolving naturally every since.

Yes...of course....
Evolution....Day Six....all things that walk....including us.
Evolution is not a parlor trick.
The churning of the Earth mixes chemistry.
Something was bound to come of it.
First plants.
Then animals.
Then higher forms of life...all yielding to their environment.

Day Seven...God rests from creation.

Chapter Two....a manipulation is performed.

Apparently Man was behaving too much like an animal.
He needed to be...spoken to.

That such notation was made thousands of years ago....
is a statement to it's own.

An old man was told a story, that should be difficult to believe.
Cut a man open and take a rib?...and not kill him?

Make a women of that rib?....no birth of woman...no navel?

And yet it was believed.

We now have the knowledge to understand how it could happen....
and now we don't believe?

 

[tumbleweed41]

Yes...of course....
Evolution....Day Six....all things that walk....including us.
Evolution is not a parlor trick.....

....We now have the knowledge to understand how it could happen....
and now we don't believe?

Yes, I understand what you believe.
But again, this thread is an effort to reveal the theological insult to God and human intelligence know as YEC and it's thinly hidden twin, ID.

 

[Vansdad]

Creationism and literal interpretations of the Torah as 'facts' seem to belittle God's creative abilities.
As if God were unable to proscribe physical laws and natural processes, and instead had to constantly interfere with and fix His own creation with Law breaking 'miracles' to get the results He wanted.
The need to interfere with His own creation shows a gross incompetence on the Designers part.
The Creationists appeal to ignorance is an even bigger slap in the face to God.
Questioning and denying the very natural Laws that God put into place in order to justify their acceptance of the creation myths written by men a little over 2300 years ago.
Putting their faith in mans written word rather than God's own creative masterpiece all around them.
The word of God is written in every decaying atom, every light particle, every fossilized remain, our very own genetic code.
God's true priests are the physicists, geologists, biologists, astrophysicists, cosmologists and other research scientists who constantly strive to find out the how and why of the universe.
They do not have to believe in God. They just have to believe in the empirical evidence they find.

Well said. I too believe God to be as real as the universe around us. It is His own laws of nature that He created. It is all real and not make believe. And as scientists discover more about life and the world around us it serves to uncover more of God's true nature and magnificence too.