Creationist Sentenced to 8,658 Years

[Jose Fly]

That "creationist" isn't the most salient
feature in the context of his crimes.

So? When Kent Hovind was convicted of his tax shenanigans he was often described as "Creationist Preacher Kent Hovind" or "Evangelist Kent Hovind".

Adnan is a similarly well-known creationist.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

He's a famous (or infamous) creationist. This is no different than when Kent Hovind was convicted of tax fraud/evasion, and the headlines described him as a creationist. Or when a preacher is convicted of stealing funds and the headlines say "Preacher convicted of stealing", etc.
...

And when a scientist cheats on the experiments. Okay.

 

[Revoltingest]

So? When Kent Hovind was convicted of his tax shenanigans he was often described as "Creationist Preacher Kent Hovind" or "Evangelist Kent Hovind".

Adnan is a similarly well-known creationist.

I find that Oktar's sexual abuse charges
are much more significant than tax evasion.
So "creationist" is relatively lower in the
label pecking order for Oktar.

 

[Jose Fly]

I find the sexual abuse that this guy
was charged with to be more significant
than tax evasion.

Me too.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

That "creationist" isn't the most salient
feature in the context of his crimes.

Exactly.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

"Creationist sentenced ..."

^ It's called click-bait ...

 

[Jose Fly]

"Creationist sentenced ..."

^ It's called click-bait ...

Someone titled a thread with the intent of getting people to look at it? The horror!!

Is Adnan a creationist? Yes.
Is he a famous, prominent creationist? Yes.
Is this sub-forum specifically about creationism? Yes.
Has his material been posted to this sub-forum before? Yes.

But apparently some would say that's all irrelevant.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Someone titled a thread with the intent of getting people to look at it? The horror!!

Is Adnan a creationist? Yes.
Is he a famous, prominent creationist? Yes.
Is this sub-forum specifically about creationism? Yes.
Has his material been posted to this sub-forum before? Yes.

But apparently some would say that's all irrelevant.

What are we supposed to learn from this in general?

 

[Jose Fly]

What are we supposed to learn from this in general?

Whatever you prefer.

 

[stvdv]

He is a fierce opponent of the theory of evolution, and wrote a widely mocked book on creationism.

televangelist, who surrounded himself with young women he referred to as his "kittens",

cult leader, was convicted of sexual assault and abuse of minors.

He is a true "creationist":
With all his kittens...creating lots of babies
With sex abuse...creating lots of karma

Lots of evolution thanks to him

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Whatever you prefer.

No all creationists are criminals. Not all criminals are creationists. That is what I prefer. It is even backed up by evidence.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Someone titled a thread with the intent of getting people to look at it? The horror!!

The problem is not that it's horrible, simply that it is cheap ...

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm having a hard time with this one. It seems excessive, but televangelists are often bad people and doing real damage and harm to others, scamming and conning their way to wealth. "Give until it hurts" some of them will even say.
And then Creationists also have their own issues. I don't know about Muslims bit Christians promoting it do legit have many features of a cult, and certain aspects do need snuffed out.
So it seems a good thing such sorts are punished, but eight millennia? They probably won't even be able to find his bones in just a fraction of that time.

 

[Jose Fly]

No all creationists are criminals. Not all criminals are creationists. That is what I prefer. It is even backed up by evidence.

Well, no one has proposed any of those things, so......congratulations?

 

[Jose Fly]

The problem is not that it's horrible, simply that it is cheap ...

Your opinion is noted.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Well, no one has proposed any of those things, so......congratulations?

So it is of interest in this forum, that a creationist has been jailed for crimes not related to creationism.

 

[Jose Fly]

I'm having a hard time with this one. It seems excessive, but televangelists are often bad people and doing real damage and harm to others, scamming and conning their way to wealth. "Give until it hurts" some of them will even say.

Adnan's case involved quite a bit of sexual abuse as well.

And then Creationists also have their own issues. I don't know about Muslims bit Christians promoting it do legit have many features of a cult, and certain aspects do need snuffed out.
So it seems a good thing such sorts are punished, but eight millennia? They probably won't even be able to find his bones in just a fraction of that time.

If one were inclined to commit the types of crimes he was convicted of, Turkey isn't the best place to do it IMO.

 

[Jose Fly]

So it is of interest in this forum, that a creationist has been jailed for crimes not related to creationism.

Noted.

 

[Left Coast]

Why is the whole focus of this thread on the word choice of the title instead of "Wow this guy is a piece of ****, glad he was brought to justice"?

Adnan Oktar: TV cult preacher jailed for 8,658 years in Turkey

A court in Turkey has sentenced a televangelist, who surrounded himself with young women he referred to as his "kittens", to 8,658 years in prison.

Adnan Oktar, who has been described as a cult leader, was convicted of sexual assault and abuse of minors.

Oktar, 66, fronted his own television channel, through which he delivered religious sermons.

He is a fierce opponent of the theory of evolution, and wrote a widely mocked book on creationism.

He was originally given a jail sentence of 1,075 years but an appeal court ordered a retrial involving 215 defendants.

Ten of them were also given 8,658 years in prison by the court in Istanbul. Many of the other defendants were given shorter terms.​

In EvC circles he was known as "Harun Yahya", author of the "Atlas of Creation" and often referred to as the Islamic Kent Hovind. I guess the two now have something else in common....prison time.

Sounds like a real piece of work. Glad he's been brought to justice.

 

[Heyo]

He did some heinous things that
were unrelated to creationism.
Did you read the article?

Unrelated?
People like him don't have the excuse of being deceived or being too stupid to know. He is a professional liar as all professional creationists are. And when your business is deception, other crimes come naturally.