Creationists: Where the hell are you?

[Breathe]

How long has the biblical God lasted, why are they still around and not greek, egyptian, roman. So you tell me how come the biblical God has mithstand the test of time rather than all these other ten times for powerful, inlfuencial religions.

Then, obviously by your reasoning Hinduism has more of a leg to stand on, since Hinduism is older than Christianity and even Judaism.


I think what you will find, good sir, is that you are currently performing an informal logical fallacy known as "argumentum ad antiquitatem"--appeal to tradition. Just because something is old, does not make it right.


Btw, do you mind laying off the insults? Insulting someone, whilst not only being against the rules, is an ad hominem--attack against the person. If you think you have a claim, can you try not to be rude about it by calling people names? Thanks.

 

[camanintx]

First of all how old is the Egyptian civilization, now how old is the abrahamic, or hebrew religion. How long has the biblical God lasted, why are they still around and not greek, egyptian, roman. So you tell me how come the biblical God has mithstand the test of time rather than all these other ten times for powerful, inlfuencial religions.

Why isnt the bible proof?
Can you agrue its not historically accurate regarding abraham to moses to Jesus?
Can you say its morals are completely unreasnable?
so why cant it be used?

If you think that age is the best determination of a religion's validity then why aren't you Hindu? After all, Krishna was around 3,000 years before Christ.

And oddly enough I saw no comments on what about my statement is false.

Here one for you then.

Where scientists were discredited for declaring the earth was round where now the same goes for scientist stating that creationism is a major possibility (watch ex- spelled, good movie).

If you think that the scientists in Expelled were discredited for what they believe, you would be sadly mistaken. They were discredited because they failed to produce science.

 

[Jacksnyte]

First of all how old is the Egyptian civilization, now how old is the abrahamic, or hebrew religion. How long has the biblical God lasted, why are they still around and not greek, egyptian, roman. So you tell me how come the biblical God has mithstand the test of time rather than all these other ten times for powerful, inlfuencial religions.

Why isnt the bible proof?
Can you agrue its not historically accurate regarding abraham to moses to Jesus?
Can you say its morals are completely unreasnable?
so why cant it be used?

Because the Romans made it their state religion! It was spread by the sword! It was written down and disseminated throughout the territories held by Rome! Nothing mysterious there! Could just as well have been any other religion.

 

[RitalinO.D.]

Why isnt the bible proof?

Book written by goat herders. Absolutely no evidence backing it up.

Can you agrue its not historically accurate regarding abraham to moses to Jesus?

Yes. It is historically inaccurate. If you dont see that then you cannot be reasoned with at all.

Can you say its morals are completely unreasnable?

God that condones slavery, genocide, infanticide. Yup, completely unreasonable

so why cant it be used?

See all of the above

 

[The Neo Nerd]

I am presently not caring of facts right now because everyone seems to no care either.

Now lets screw proof for a second because thats what seems to be the trend hear.

How typical.

EVERYONE STOP

IGNORE THE FACTS

THEY DON'T HELP MY ARGUMENT

ALL YOU'VE GOT TO DO IS BELIEVE

 

[outhouse]

it would be one thing if you could believe the bible because its accurate.

when we know what a utter failure the bible is regarding accuracy with no credibility

it is amazing to me in this modern time people still defend this ancient barbaric practice

 

[ChristineES]

Alright, from what I've seen on this forum thus far, it's essentially just a bunch of atheist evolutionists committing what could be considered statutory rape upon the creationist theory and a creationist population that can be numbered in single digits. My question is this: where are all the creationists? I've seen your articles all over the internet, I've heard all kinds of ******** stories about what you believe. But when asked directly to provide even the smallest shred of evidence for your convictions, you either dodge the question or refuse to respond at all? Where are you people and why don't you defend what you believe?

Oh, honestly, even if there were creationists here, do you think they would admit here that they are here? Then there are middle of the road people who say "we don't know how the earth got here, we just live here".

 

[tumbleweed41]

I am presently not caring of facts right now.....

Here's your sign....

 

[godlikemadman]

It seems my negative viewpoint on creationism is well founded. Creationism, in my mind, appears to be a grossly literal translation of a document of dubious veracity. One must be a complete fool and a blind follower to actually hold these beliefs to be true, even in small increments. It is completely unsubstantiated by either modern techonological techniques or by pure logic. It simply astounds me that people actually believe this nonsense.

 

[outhouse]

It seems my negative viewpoint on creationism is well founded. Creationism, in my mind, appears to be a grossly literal translation of a document of dubious veracity. One must be a complete fool and a blind follower to actually hold these beliefs to be true, even in small increments. It is completely unsubstantiated by either modern techonological techniques or by pure logic. It simply astounds me that people actually believe this nonsense.

good post frubals for you

 

[The Neo Nerd]

So you tell me how come the biblical God has mithstand the test of time rather than all these other ten times for powerful, inlfuencial religions.

You spelt myth wrong.

 

[Riverwolf]

I'll take that bet.
I spent many years attempting to justify my belief in God with evidence.
There is none.
And those with faith should not feel the need to manufacture any.

*raises hand again.*

I believe in God, but I fully recognize and accept that there is ZERO objective evidence for God, and therefore I do not try to prove it.

 

[Riverwolf]

Please, enlighten me on how my previous statement was not logical.

Okay.

Lets look at this from a open minded point of view. Lets say we take the smartest most intellectual genius of all time, and lets say he knows approximately 0.5% of about the universe, and thats being generous, what are the chances God exists in that 99.5%.

Not too good, actually. Unknown =/= God. Unknown = UNKNOWN. After all, lightning was an unknown for a very long time, and was thus attributed by different tribes to different causes, often Gods. Turns out it has nothing to do with Gods.

Therefore, the chances of God being in that 99.5% of unknowable stuff is actually quite small.

Just because something is unknown or can't be explained with our current abilities, doesn't mean it HAS to be God. That's the flaw in your reasoning.

So now, logically, your not all atheists, your agnostic because you can't prove God does not exist.

Agnosticism and atheism/theism are not mutually exclusive. I'm a theist, but I'm also very much agnostic, because I don't "know" in the same way I know I'm typing on a laptop.

 

[Riverwolf]

First of all how old is the Egyptian civilization, now how old is the abrahamic, or hebrew religion. How long has the biblical God lasted, why are they still around and not greek, egyptian, roman. So you tell me how come the biblical God has mithstand the test of time rather than all these other ten times for powerful, inlfuencial religions.

Well, if you want to use the "test of time" argument, well, MY religion is at least hundreds of years your senior(some believe thousands, even), and arguably had to put up with A LOT more trials than yours.