Criticizing religious beliefs. A fundamental human right.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I say that Religions should not mingle with politics and politics should not mingle with religion.

Yet they do, which by itself entitles me to speak my mind on those religions that have mingled with politics.

 

[Shad]

I say that Religions should not mingle with politics and politics should not mingle with religion.

A problem is many people that are religious use that worldview while being in politics. It is no longer about organized religion have a seat at the table. See; Same-sex marriage in the USA.

 

[Milton Platt]

I mildly disagree. People hold their beliefs to be sacred. For many people, attacking someone's beliefs is often taken as a personal attack. Many people do not have the distinction that what they believe is not who they are. So for some people, it is an attack on the believer.

Everyone has their own personal dogma. Beliefs are like clothing. Unless you've tried it on you may not really understand how it looks in the mirror. I don't think any one dogma can be objective to proven to be better than any other dogma. So I would then argue everyone's dogma is sacred and should be respected. I think what this thread should really be saying is, "everyone has the right to choose what they believe."

I think attacking someone's sacredly held beliefs is generally kind of rude. And my grandmother used to say in a Edith Bunker like voice, "If you don't have anything nice to say shut your God damn mouth!" My grandmother never stopped trying to teach me to be a polite person. She was really into being polite and considerate of other people. After she died I stopped arguing with her about her philosophies.

Truth to what you say here.......
The exception is when they are wanting you to believe those things as well. one should have the right to critically examine such claims and demand good evidence.

 

[Earthling]

Do you actually think I was suggesting we should do this?

No, I said we shouldn't and then asked you a question which you haven't answered.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

No, I said we shouldn't and then asked you a question which you haven't answered.

If you know I wasn't suggesting that we tar everyone with the same brush, then you ought to also know that your question was irrelevant to what we were talking about.

 

[Earthling]

If you know I wasn't suggesting that we tar everyone with the same brush, then you ought to also know that your question was irrelevant to what we were talking about.

Okay, that's your answer then. You could of saved us all time by just saying it's irreverent in the first place.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Okay, that's your answer then. You could of saved us all time by just saying it's irreverent in the first place.

Irrelevant, not irreverent. And I did deal with it as I usually deal with red herrings I'm not interested in pursuing: I ignored it. There was no point in dealing with a question that seemed based on bad assumptions; better to clarify and correct the assumptions, which is what I did.