Critics of atheism please come forward.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I don't see any contradiction at all if the entire argument is read. Picking out two statements and arbitrarily placing them side-by-side, while ignoring the "connecting dots," is also pleading. Such a method could debunk many an argument.

I read the entire argument. I didn't pick two statements arbitrarily, I chose them because I felt they summed up the author's point neatly.

In the end, the first cause argument always comes down to special pleading: at its core is the idea that everything must be caused, but God, even though He is part of "everything" does not need to be caused, for some reason.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Everyone is doing such a good job offering their opinions.....All I can say is being an athiest is wonderful. That's just how I see it....

But..........If you are a theist...that is great too.....I may not agree with you but that keeps the conversation going.