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Curious to know a Muslim belief

ohyouman

New Member
Hi. Can someone please reply authoritatively? Yo I'm just a little curious if there is a parallel between the way Christians believe in Jesus - believing him to still be very much alive - and how Muslims see their hero and prophet, Mohammed. Do Muslims believe that Mohammed is still very much alive? ..and perhaps ruling some hypothetical theater of human endeavor?

For honesty's sake I will confess up front that I am quite contemptuous of anyone who subscribes to, uh, 'spooks'. Not to worry - if you're lucky I'll get my answer and then not linger here long.

Many thanks!
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hi. Can someone please reply authoritatively? Yo I'm just a little curious if there is a parallel between the way Christians believe in Jesus - believing him to still be very much alive - and how Muslims see their hero and prophet, Mohammed. Do Muslims believe that Mohammed is still very much alive? ..and perhaps ruling some hypothetical theater of human endeavor?

For honesty's sake I will confess up front that I am quite contemptuous of anyone who subscribes to, uh, 'spooks'. Not to worry - if you're lucky I'll get my answer and then not linger here long.

Many thanks!

Hi ohyouman

first opf all we Muslims believe in Jesus (pbuh) , son of Mary as great prophet of God . (not son of God)

actuatly there is a lack opinion about Muhammad (pbuh) or Jesus (pbuh) are alive .

for sure they are not still alive in earth life for NOW .

We Muslims believe Jesus (pbuh) will come back in futur , and he will died .

God knows best .
 

JRMcC

Active Member
Hi. Can someone please reply authoritatively? Yo I'm just a little curious if there is a parallel between the way Christians believe in Jesus - believing him to still be very much alive - and how Muslims see their hero and prophet, Mohammed. Do Muslims believe that Mohammed is still very much alive? ..and perhaps ruling some hypothetical theater of human endeavor?

For honesty's sake I will confess up front that I am quite contemptuous of anyone who subscribes to, uh, 'spooks'. Not to worry - if you're lucky I'll get my answer and then not linger here long.

Many thanks!

Good question. Jesus allegedly sits at the right and of the Father today. I also wonder where Mohammed is today according to Islam.
 

Smart_Guy

...
Premium Member
I, a Muslim, believe Muhammad is dead. The Quran mentions that Jesus was raised to heaven when they wanted to crucify him. It is not known if he was raised as he is with his physical body or if it was his soul; i.e., his life was taken to heaven (dead).

I thought Christians believed Jesus sacrificed himself (died).

I don't see how you leaving here is luck for us. Stick around :)
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Good question. Jesus allegedly sits at the right and of the Father today. I also wonder where Mohammed is today according to Islam.
"Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed." Surat An-Nisā' 4:48
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I thought Christians believed Jesus sacrificed himself (died).

Most do, but most also believe that he was ressurrected and then ascended to the Heavens and that he will return to Earth someday, IIRC in order to bring the believers into Heavens at the end of times.

But it should be noted that even among groups that explicitly call themselves Christians, there is a wide variety of beliefs about the nature and role of Jesus. Some are far more frequent than others, certainly, but the variety is still there.
 

ohyouman

New Member
... even among groups that explicitly call themselves Christians, there is a wide variety of beliefs about the nature and role of Jesus.
I've heard a whole lot of Christians paying lip service to their top guy and in every single last case of such speech overheard, the present tense was used when referring to JC, signifying a live being.
 

NB Ibrahim

New Member
The answer to your question depends on you definition of death. So please define death and I will answer your question.
 

ohyouman

New Member
The answer to your question depends on you definition of death. So please define death and I will answer your question.
I never used the term "death" in my question. I said that Christians believe Jesus to still be very much alive - the belief is embedded in all of their rhetoric (eg. "Jesus is Lord"). They believe Jesus is still very much alive but in some 'spiritual' realm (I say that word with disdain, like it's about vanity) - yeah they believe Jesus is a SPOOK. Do Muslims believe Mohammed lives on as a SPOOK?????
 
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arthra

Baha'i
If you mean by "spook" a disembodied spirit running around I would doubt Muslims believe that...there is an after-life and paradise....

Reading Surih Ali-Imran169-

"And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision,.."

There were times in the life of the Prophet that He was attacked and attempts were made to kill Him so it would seem He is "alive" with His Lord receiving provision".
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
There were times in the life of the Prophet that He was attacked and attempts were made to kill Him so it would seem He is "alive" with His Lord receiving provision".
I think no prophet or messenger has reached his Lord because the end of time has not come. Of course, these personages will be with their Lord and receive provision but only after Qiyama.
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ohyouman

New Member
I think no prophet or messenger has reached his Lord because the end of time has not come. Of course, these personages will be with their Lord and receive provision but only after Qiyama.
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Both posts also beg the question what is meant by "his Lord". Does that mean Allah? You're allowed to believe in an a priori Almighty, I'll grant that - just no dead humans become spooky unseen potentates o_O
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
God, Allah or Yahweh, that does not matter. All hopefuls patiently wait in their graves at the moment for the day of judgment when they will be raised, the gates of heaven will be opened and they will be allowed to enter.
 

ohyouman

New Member
Non-sequitur. I never inquired about ordinary folks, what you call hopefuls. I asked about two purported potentates that allegedly haunt and, in Jesus's case, even control. But I've not heard clarity from any Muslim regarding whether Mohammed truly haunts or is alive or remains causal by other than mere legacy.
 

NB Ibrahim

New Member
Sorry I think my little knowledge of English as a language failed me but I thought the opposite of "he is alive" is " he is dead".

First of All he (Muhammad Rasulillah Salallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is dead but not like Michael Jackson is dead death, thus my question about your definition of alive or death, but to give you a general answer since I don't get what you really wanna know.

Muhammad (SAW) is not alive per say but some scholars have claimed to have seen him in person in as recent as 40 years ago. There is a Hadith sahih from prophet Muhammad (SAW) he said " Anyone who saw me in a dream, it is really I he sees for the devil can look like everyone except me, and the dreamer shall see me awake."

Sunni Muslims believe that the awake part is on the day of judgement while some Sufi scholars believe that it will be here on earth before death. The sunnis really don't have much of a basis for their argument but the sufi's argument was that after the passing of the prophet one of his companions a young boy had a dream about the prophet (SAW) so after he woke up he went to his Aunt who happens to be one of wives of Muhammad (SAW) and he told her about the hadith I stated above and she gave him the mirror of prophet Muhammad(SAW) and when he looked at the mirror he saw the face of Muhammad(SAW) instead of his own.

P.S please don't put the name of Muhammad(SAW) in the same sentence as spook it is disrespectful. And if we cannot respect each other what is the point aye?

Thank you.
 

ohyouman

New Member
Where someone is tangible and alive you can normally count on my treating them with courtesy and respect. Beyond that I make few promises.
 

Ashraf

Member
All Muslims believe prophet Mohammed died just like any other human being. As for Jesus Christ, the Holy Quran tells us that Allah lifted him to Himself :

“But they killed him not, nor crucified him; It was only a likeness shown to them: Most certainly they killed him not. Rather, God lifted him up to Himself.” (Quran 4:157-8)

Most scholars of Islam explain that Jesus Christ was lifted body and soul (still alive) and he will return later to earth

However, a small number of scholars say that he already died and Allah lifted him to Himself and there will be no returning to earth

Please be advised that believing that Jesus Christ will return or not is not a pillar of faith according to the Islamic religion
 

ohyouman

New Member
All Muslims believe prophet Mohammed died just like any other human being. As for Jesus Christ...
Thank you kindly. Your post sounds like it's authoritative. So then, there is no parallel with Jesus after all, and Muslims believe that Mohammed's remaining causality is only by way of his legacy. He is not an animate specter ruling from behind some dark curtain which is, as I've stated, what Christians perceive their guy to be.
 
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