Danny Ayalon denies the existence of Palestine

[FearGod]

There is "Palestine" and certainly no "crimes of Israel".

The crimes are committed by the arab leadership by not only attacking Israeli civilians but by having more hate for Jews than caring about their own women and children.

All the world had witnessed the crimes,the world isn't blind today.

 

[CMike]

Again,this is the reason for killing the Palestinian children,what kind of a merciful man you are.

They are killed by their own parents who use them as human shields.

The sole responsibility falls on those who put them in danger.

 

[CMike]

All the world had witnessed the crimes,the world isn't blind today.

I think it was Netanyahu who said it's not what the arabs say in english that matters, it's what they say in arabic that really matters.

 

[FearGod]

Here are arab leaders saying that they use their own people as human shields

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Terrorists Using Civilians as Human Shields - YouTube

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Terrorists Use Palestinian Civilians As Human Shields - YouTube

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Human Shields - Hamas in action - YouTube

A stupid way for distortion the facts.

Actually Israel doesn't care about the civilians then how Hamas will used them as a shield,then Israel is saying IOW that we killed civilians because they were used to protect Hamas and we are forced to kill them then how come that Hamas will hide behind them knowing that Israel will kill them along with the human sheild.

That is really not only stupid lie but even a disgusting one as thinking people are stupid to believe such lies.

 

[CMike]

A stupid way for distortion the facts.

Actually Israel doesn't care about the civilians then how Hamas will used them as a shield,then Israel is saying IOW that we killed civilians because they were used to protect Hamas and we are forced to kill them then how come that Hamas will hide behind them knowing that Israel will kill them along with the human sheild.

That is really not only stupid lie but even a disgusting one as thinking people are stupid to believe such lies.

Because Israel does care more about the arab civilians more than the arabs do.

Just listen to the arab leaders. They intentionally use their own people as human shields.

That way they either

1) Stop israel from attacking terrorists

or

2) Use a dead child for propoganda purposes

They lack any morals or humanity.

 

[FearGod]

I think it was Netanyahu who said it's not what the arabs say in english that matters, it's what they say in arabic that really matters.

There is no harm of words whether in English or Arabic but the real harm is to bomb the children by warplanes.

Oh sorry,i forgot,they were a human shield used by Hamas,that's why they were killed.

 

[CMike]

Actually it was Golda Meir.

"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us"

Below are some more of her statements.

Golda Meir on Peace

“When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.” (Statement at a Press Conference in London, 1969)

“I am convinced that peace will come to Israel and its neighbors because the tens of millions of Arabs need peace just as much as we do. An Arab mother who loses a son in battle weeps as bitterly as any Israeli mother.”

“Of course, we all must realize that the path to peace may be a little bit difficult, but not as difficult as the path to war.” (Remarks made upon Anwar Sadat's first visit to Jerusalem, 1977)
“The only alternative to war is peace. The only road to peace is negotiation.” (Remarks made during peace negotiations with Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, 1977)

 

[FearGod]

Actually it was Golda Meir.

"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us"

Below are some more of her statements.

Golda Meir on Peace

“When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.” (Statement at a Press Conference in London, 1969)

“I am convinced that peace will come to Israel and its neighbors because the tens of millions of Arabs need peace just as much as we do. An Arab mother who loses a son in battle weeps as bitterly as any Israeli mother.”

“Of course, we all must realize that the path to peace may be a little bit difficult, but not as difficult as the path to war.” (Remarks made upon Anwar Sadat's first visit to Jerusalem, 1977)
“The only alternative to war is peace. The only road to peace is negotiation.” (Remarks made during peace negotiations with Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, 1977)

Is there any human on earth who doesn't love his own child and how come that all arabs have the same feeling towards their own children.Are all Arabs from the planet Mars.

Again those statements are fooling people and a stupid and disgusting ones because the one telling it thinking that the other person is less intelligent than him and then he'll believe such lies.

it is up to you if you had believed her that she knows that the Arabs hate their own children and then Israel is forced to kill those children.

 

[Flankerl]

opcorn:

Well while I get their point about the existence (today) of a Palestinian Arab population, their video did not refute a single argument of Ayalon. If anything the first 4 minutes of the video actually validate Ayalon's arguments; Palestine is a geographical term, which was related to possibly dozens of communities and religions. From about 4 minutes in the video they actually start spreading disinformation. And I've noticed that they cut some of the most essential minutes of Ayalon's original video about the comparison of Middle Eastern Jews like him who were expelled from other region of the Middle East only to be welcomed in Israel and become a citizen and the fact that there is a systematic perpetuation of Palestinian refugee status.

Tsk tsk tsk.

You actually did something they dont want you to do. You compared both videos.

Thats like cheating. You have to let your emotions overwhelm you and post pictures of dead children.

This issue keeps disorienting me. Time and again I have seen context-lacking statements, mainly from Jewish-aligned sources, to the effect that Palestine in some sense did not traditionally exist until perhaps very recently.

Its so good that you are such a competent and independent observer.:sarcastic

 

[F0uad]

Well Palestine then shouldn't recognize Israel as a state also.

 

[Shermana]

I take it that Judea and Samaria are claimed as traditional Palestinian territories then?

And also claimed as traditional and historical Jewish territories. The Jewish population far precedes the Arabs there.

 

[Shermana]

to the effect that Palestine in some sense did not traditionally exist until perhaps very recently.

By all means please present a non-Jewish source that demonstrates a distinct cultural and national entity within the region of "Palestine", and by all means, please present a distinct border of this "Palestine" before 1918. That'd be great. But while you're at it, try to make it a non-Palestinian source too.

(Give you a hint, during the Ottoman period, it was a series of Vilyets, and the whole territory was referred to among Arabs as "Southern Syria).

 

[Shermana]

Well Palestine then shouldn't recognize Israel as a state also.

That's fine. Just don't expect the "peace process" to progress without doing so.

 

[Juhurka]

Well Palestine then shouldn't recognize Israel as a state also.

We really don't care because there is no Palestine, there never was Palestine and never will there be a Palestine on Jewish land.

Once again, you people have to learn how to be normal, its okay for Arabs to kill, you see nothing wrong in that but when Arabs are killed you people act as the most abused in the world.

you can post any videos you would like but I personally do not feel apologetic, not a bit because I know what it is like to live among you people, you are the most blood thirsty and unfair people out there I feel no shame in protecting what is mine so go take a hike, there are over 100000 dead people in Syria and all you do is bash Israel.

 

[CMike]

There is no harm of words whether in English or Arabic but the realm harm is to bomb the children by warplanes.

Oh sorry,i forgot,they were a human shield used by Hamas,that's why they were killed.

:yes: You seem to have gotten it. Good work.

 

[CMike]

Well Palestine then shouldn't recognize Israel as a state also.

Since there is no "palestine" it doesn't matter.

 

[WonderWho]

That not exactly correct, Jordan too is occupying Jewish land. British designated what today is Jordan as Palestine, that was illegal, mandate doe not grant you the power to divide the land. All of that land is Jewish so Arabs can go..... What ever they want to them self's.

Arabs come from the Arabian desert they are not from Palestine/Israel, there is a perception that Arabs are the owners of the Middle East, that is factually wrong, Middle East is home to many groups of people and religions including Jews, so in reality Arabs can have......!

Exactly. My point was that these 'Palestinians' made no moves to reclaim Trans-Jordan or to set up a state in 1948. They allowed the West Bank to be annexed to Jordan.
Only when Jordan lost the 1967 war and King Hussain gave up claim to the West Bank did this become "Palestinian land".
Even if Israel had been one square meter, the Arabs would have attacked. It is pure hatred of Jews.
These stupid people should have welcomed the Jewish state. The whole area would be flourishing instead of drowning in wars.

 

[Shermana]

The day I see the Palestinian-supporters clamoring for Jordan to no longer be the Hashemite's private fiefdom and for it to return to being "Palestine", and stop excusing it or making apologetics for this post 1922 private Empire of the Monarchy, is the day I'll take them somewhat seriously. Somewhat.

 

[Flankerl]

Really a video about so called "quotes" from the Talmud?

Are you really going there? Cant you just go to the last thread that some retard started about these quotes?
This would really save us a lot of time FearIsl.. uh i mean FearGod.

Oh and your evidence for a so called palestine is a religious christian picture from the 20th century? You are funny.

 

[FearGod]

Really a video about so called "quotes" from the Talmud?

Are you really going there? Cant you just go to the last thread that some retard started about these quotes?
This would really save us a lot of time FearIsl.. uh i mean FearGod.

Oh and your evidence for a so called palestine is a religious christian picture from the 20th century? You are funny.

i expected that most of you here (i mean our Jews friends) will agree with me that Palestine does exist and Palestinians deserve to return back to their homeland as they were scattered all over the world and that Ayalon is a liar,but instead of that you do agree with him that there is no Palestine.

Anyway thank you Flankerl for your comment.