Dawkins celebrates

[cottage]

"Under the new agreement, funding will be withdrawn for any free school that teaches what it claims are "evidence-based views or theories" that run "contrary to established scientific and/or historical evidence and explanations"."

Sounds like mind-control. We wouldn't want these poor kids exposed to anything that might keep them from drinking the ToE Kool-aid, or the "scientific" orthodox propaganda.

The withdrawal of funding by the UK government for free schools is hardly to be compared with the government edict that decrees schools must have a 'daily act of collective worship', which must be 'broadly Christian in character'. Now that is an example of mind control. That law, which insists upon the teaching of a supposed worshipful being, is a dogma and unlike the sciences it is not to be questioned (although children with other religious belies may excuse themselves from 'Religious Instruction' - or whatever title the individual schools use).

The good news is that schools are evermore reluctant to preach religious dogma to children, and many have found creative ways to circumvent the law by teaching about various faiths for example, instead of imparting knowledge about a specific mystical belief as if it were an inalienable truth.

 

[Viker]

Seems fine. Science should be taught in science classes. They could offer an ID course.

 

[cablescavenger]

That's not what's reported here.

The meaning hasn't come across too well because you are cleverer than the reporter who wrote it and pebble dashed it with multiple speech marks, thus distorting the meaning. It is clearer if you take the speech marks away, and read it - like this:

Under the new agreement, funding will be withdrawn for any free school that teaches what it claims are evidence-based views or theories that run "contrary to established scientific and/or historical evidence and explanations.

Now you can see a little clearer I think.

It is saying the funding will be withdrawn if a free school claims to be teaching evidence based theory that is not supported in science or historical fact. i.e. is not evidence based.

Which is how I believe Revoltingest interpreted it.

 

[cablescavenger]

The massive conspiracy against the Gracious Leader is the main reason...

I am sure the Queen won't mind.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Meh, most of the moon-brained, little twits have already been tainted by moron parents anyway. People love to pass along their ignorance more than anything else.

 

[Photonic]

I'm not sure.
What about innovative science - for example the view that consciousness has something to do with quantum mechanics - that runs contrary to established scientific and/or historical evidence and explanations? can that cause funding to be blocked?
When does new science that challenges the status quo become 'established'?
When would it have been ok to stop teaching Newton and start teaching Einstein?

So you know, these are public non-college schools. They are not there to learn to research, they are there to get the basics taught to them. If they want to educate themselves beyond that, there is the internet, books, and Universities.

 

[outhouse]

The key thing to remember is that ID has been deemed unscientific in a court of law.

Its not even a religious idea, or gods word's or teachings.


It is a man made guess to try and keep a manmade version of creation in the classroom. putting their foot in a door that is shutting fast. They failed.


There is nothing to teach other then a intelligent designer did it. they have nothing to support their position at all. It goes against science and it goes against the bibles version of creation.



At this point ID is a failed myth that is dieing a slow death.


Why teach myths to children


Would you not want your child to be competitive in todays job market???

 

[9Westy9]

Public Schools.

Private schools are privately funded, so the government cannot withdraw those funds.

I probably should have figured that out from the article xD. In which case I'm definitely for.