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Death and Consciousness at Birth
- Thread starter Fool
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Yeah.... Every moment we are alive consciousness is constantly changing.
I see this idea of a continuous existence since birth as more an illusion cause by memories.
I'm not the same person I was yesterday. Tomorrow, I'll be a different person from who I am today.
Who/what knows itself differing day to day?
The conscious mind, which more or less lives in a virtual reality created by the subconscious mind.
Right. If I met the 16 year old me today, I would think him a know it all smart a$$. And he would look at me as a boring idiot.
Phantasman
Well-Known Member
It's why the definition "born again" was used by Christ. Born of the spirit (after physical flesh life has had a chance to show us what it has to offer) is a new realization of what truly is available. At death, the conscious mind is erased of all faults of physical, including pain, guilt, fear, etc. Though we still experience them when of flesh, when the flesh dies, they are removed with it.
Matthew 6:
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Since you can't take it with you when you die..................the flesh profits nothing. John 6:63
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
We had no consciousness when we were conceived, then we had no brain. When we die, our consciousness in my opinion is expanded.
so you don't believe that consciousness can be condensed?
reverse engineering and breaking things back down and into their simplest parts
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
When you think of it from a molecular perspective our whole body is a massive Communications Network for which Im pretty much convinced that consciousness has something to do with that, making it multifaceted. Something of an extension that we feel all the way down from the micro to the macro.
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Ecclesiastes.
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Like the OP seems to be suggesting, I also suggest that consciousness is fundamental- if it can be considered simply as capacity for action and reaction. When these capacities are collectivized, consciousness naturally becomes more complex, i.e. capacity for action and reaction becomes convoluted, or mysterious, in our observation.
Well, I know that military folk like to say that time and life are a circle. Doesn't make me mad though I don't like it. Can't refute it.
Okay. Your answer raises two further questions. Conscious mind, which is ever changing, knows itself to be changing? And how much do we know of the subconscious?
Sure it can be aware of differences, but I suspect what you are trying to imply is the feeling of being an observer to these changes. I really don't have an answer for that. What causes or allows for this feeling of being an observer.
Experientially, nothing. It's subconscious, it's not consciously observable. We can observe the mechanics of it to a degree through MRIs and EEGs etc. However the resulting experience felt/observed by the individual is difficult to directly correlate.
Right now it's magic/metaphysics/supernatural phenomenon. That may change in the future but right not it's a bunch of unproven theories.