Magdalene
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Why die at all?Why is death so scary to many? Are you afraid of dying? Why or why not?
He that keeps my sayings shall never see death - John 8:51
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Why die at all?Why is death so scary to many? Are you afraid of dying? Why or why not?
because of hell and all that "fun" stuff lol. Christians (in short) say Worship Jesus aka the true god, Muslims and Jews say worship Allah/God but, their books are different. So who's right? Let's say i become a Muslim, do YOU think ill end up in hell?
I could not feel comfortable calling God “Father“
So while I of not feel comfortable calling God "father" nor Jesus God, what do I do? I am more inclined to believe Jesus was a Prophet and not God himself.
So while I of not feel comfortable calling God "father" nor Jesus God, what do I do? I am more inclined to believe Jesus was a Prophet and not God himself.
Before I became a father, death was not a big deal for me, but now that I have a 1yo daughter I guess I am afraid of her growing without a fatherWhy is death so scary to many? Are you afraid of dying? Why or why not?
And truly I understand what you're saying here. However, and it's a big however, and I speak as Paul did about himself in my case -- unless God Himself reaches you, it will not be understood about life and death, the purpose of life, and who God really is.You know... I know you don't mean any disrespect, but that kind of mindset has always left a bad taste in my mouth. When folks like to take people and put them in categories according to their preconcieved notions about what they think those people are like, it never actually reflects how the person is or what they think or how they feel.
You see, I used to think that this life was a stepping stone to something better. I believed that all the hardships I faced in this life would magically go away when I died; that all the time I squandered, all the opportunities I missed, and all the neglect of myself that I endured for the sake of others who'd use me for my selflessness was ok because when I died I would finally be able to be happy in heaven. I never really respected the life I had, because I believed god had something better in store for me than the life I lived.
Only in realising my mortality have I found that life is truly, truly precious. Every breath I take is one less breath I have before I die forever. I've learned that time is a precious thing never to be wasted. I've learned that opportunities are gone forever if you don't strike when the iron is hot. I've also learned that by strengthening yourself, it puts you in a better position to help people in a more healthy and meaingful way.
You assume I fear death. In truth, I've learned how to love life.
You know, here's something Jesus said that I was thinking about: He said in prayer to his Father in heaven, "This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ." Now if Jesus spoke of the "only true God," doesn't that imply that he knew there were others called God or gods? Again -- John 17:3 - "This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ." So Jesus knew there were others called God. (or gods.)because of hell and all that "fun" stuff lol. Christians (in short) say Worship Jesus aka the true god, Muslims and Jews say worship Allah/God but, their books are different. So who's right? Let's say i become a Muslim, do YOU think ill end up in hell?
Right, the dead are resurrected ( awakened ) from death's deep sleep.Sleep in death is not annihilation or extinction in death. The Bible never teaches that we become non existent in death.
Sleep in death actually suggests that we are still there, just in a different state to our normal waking state.
Never see 'eternal death ' aka destruction - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35; Jeremiah 51:39; Jeremiah 51:57.Why die at all?
He that keeps my sayings shall never see death - John 8:51
I was very young when my father died, before he died he told me if I love God He will take care of me.Before I became a father, death was not a big deal for me, but now that I have a 1yo daughter I guess I am afraid of her growing without a father
He said in prayer to his Father in heaven
Jesus taught that he is the Son of God when he answered as to who he is at John 10:36.So while I of not feel comfortable calling God "father" nor Jesus God, what do I do? I am more inclined to believe Jesus was a Prophet and not God himself.
Jesus said to whom we should worship at John 4:23-24Doesn't this mean that Jesus wasn't God since he prayed? Why does God need to pray?
So are you saying Jesus was/is NOT God? If yes, then what was he?Jesus said to whom we should worship at John 4:23-24
Jesus directed prayer to: Our Father who is in Heaven......
According to gospel writer John, pre-human heavenly Jesus is the beginning of the creation by God - see Revelation 3:14 BSo are you saying Jesus was/is NOT God? If yes, then what was he?
Some ─ elephants and chimps (maybe dolphins) are mentioned in the literature ─ appear to understand the concept of death, and have particular behaviors when particular deaths occur.
There are many behaviors in the animal kingdom that reveal a planned preservation of DNA. Lions I believe, if they fight and kill the alpha male, will kill his cubs and replace them with his own. This would keep the gene pool fresh and the animals from becoming too interbred.Chimps also invade the territories of other chimps and kill the males, which suggests planning and purpose action. But for the rest, as long as they flee or are effective in a fight, the abstract concept may not matter.
This though is a learned behavior. They have body clocks like we do, and if the hunger strikes at the same time each day...or if the master or mistress returns at the same time each day, there is an expectation created.....which is a learned behavior.Without overstating it, dogs I've known show that at certain times of day they expect things to happen, like someone's return (more subtle than just getting fed).
Or their evolution, since the ones that didn't, didn't survive as well.
You should have a good look at evolution ─ it's a remarkably good explainer of a lot of things about living critters. Whereas "God did it" explains nothing till someone shows us how God did it.And the answer here may well be. by evolution.
All explained by instinct.....not by these creatures consciously doing this because they think its a good idea.....Mutual protection behaviors are found in most gregarious animals, like the simultaneous swerves of schools of fish, or flocks of birds. Meerkats are noted for it, birds and some animals have particular cries to warn of predators, and so on.
I don't think we can assert that with any confidence. Elephants, chimps and dolphins are each noted for their intelligence. It's by no means improbable that their death-avoiding behaviors are coupled with awareness of death, just as their mourning behaviors are.Yes, they can comprehend when some part of their herd or troop dies, but it is after the death has occurred that they react to it.
Is it learnt behavior in any sense different to human learnt behavior about when someone or something is due to arrive?This though is a learned behavior. They have body clocks like we do, and if the hunger strikes at the same time each day...or if the master or mistress returns at the same time each day, there is an expectation created.....which is a learned behavior.
Whoever told you it was all chance misinformed you. Evolution is part chance and part process. For example, it's not chance that a more intelligent member of species X has a better chance of surviving and breeding than less intelligent members, hence that the group has a chance to become collectively smarter.When I see the intricacy of design in nature and contemplate the likelihood of that happening by chance and the zeros are just too numerous...I will opt for Intelligent Design, not a series of fortunate flukes.
And truly I understand what you're saying here. However, and it's a big however, and I speak as Paul did about himself in my case -- unless God Himself reaches you, it will not be understood about life and death, the purpose of life, and who God really is.
Not like Paul's. Suffice it to say for now that I declared for a long time that I did not believe in God. But thanks for reminding me as to how it came about that I changed my mind.Well, god literally reached out to Paul when he was on the road to Damascus. Have you had a road to damascus experience too, then?