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Death
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Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
Well, death is just the absence of life, I'm not too sure I agree that death is an illusion though, could you elaborate on that?
I do agree though, that once dead, we'll be 'deconstructed' and returned to the universe like everything else. It's no the concept of being dead that terrifies me - it's the process of dying and how traumatic it could end up being.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
There is no belief in death in my life, nothing dies because everything is one, its all flowing, to be fearful about death is to stop the flow, and because of this we become obsessed with death, and forget to live, wasting our precious life, the only life we will ever have.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I love the Beatles, yea yea yea.
arthra
Baha'i
Death for me is like a "graduation day".... Before my grandmother passed on she looked for a bridal gown in the closet of her room...
The Baha'i Writings have this to say re. "death":
O SON OF THE SUPREME!
I have made death a messenger of joy to thee. Wherefore dost thou grieve? I made the light to shed on thee its splendor. Why dost thou veil thyself therefrom?
~ Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Why deconstruct it after deathonly? Deconstruct it in life. And you get two realities. In one reality I am Aupmanyav, in the other I am what constitutes all things in the universe. Yes, in the first reality, death could come quietly or can be traumatic, which is an illusion. One was never other than the universe in both the realities. (The first one in 'advaita' Hinduism is termed as 'pragmatic' (Vyavaharika'), the second one is known as 'absolute ('Paramarthika'). Of course, there are many more views in Hinduism)
And how many houris await us on the other side of death? Or the splendor and joy is without houris?
Kuzcotopia
If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
And so it goes.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Who is it that is terrified? Who is it that dies?
If you can see into the illusory nature of the self, then where is the one who lives and dies? Where is death?
'All this world is filled with coming and going*.
Show me the path where there is no coming and there is no going.'
Zen source
*coming and going = birth and death
If you can see both birth and death, then from which vantage point are you seeing them? That vantage point must, then, be both birthless and deathless. We call that vantage point 'The Unborn'. Here, you are free.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
I can only see it from the vantage point of the living.
godnotgod
Thou art That
But the moment you say that, you must include the vantage point of dying, because if you are living, dying is inevitable. So in essence, what you are doing, is looking from the vantage point of duality. Before you call it 'the living'; before you call it 'dying', what is it?
Bird123
Well-Known Member
When one dies, one goes to God. Everyone already knows God for we have all been with God before. When we are with God, we experience God's Unconditional Love. This is so good that we all want to be just like God. We realize where we are and where we need to be. This is the point of judgment. We judge ourselves.
Who knows how long we bask in God's unconditional love,surely to the point where no hate remains in ourselves. There comes a time when kiddies must go back to school. We are born into a new body and new physical life for there is more to learn, experience, and discover than could ever be done in one mere lifetime.
As for those who have come close to death and have returned having experienced nothing, remember, nothing will happen to you that will interfere with your lesson. How would such an experience change you or your choices through the intimidate of the experience? As with everything in life, there are many many factors to consider with any event.
Relax, Death is no more than a CHANGE.
Who knows how long we bask in God's unconditional love,surely to the point where no hate remains in ourselves. There comes a time when kiddies must go back to school. We are born into a new body and new physical life for there is more to learn, experience, and discover than could ever be done in one mere lifetime.
As for those who have come close to death and have returned having experienced nothing, remember, nothing will happen to you that will interfere with your lesson. How would such an experience change you or your choices through the intimidate of the experience? As with everything in life, there are many many factors to consider with any event.
Relax, Death is no more than a CHANGE.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
To consider a body to be separate from the universe is the first bondage.
godnotgod
Thou art That
How can something that never existed in the first place be deconstructed, and how can something that never left the universe return to it? All that really occurs is that temporal form returns to the original state of formlessness, just as the temporal wave returns to the formless sea out of which it first emerged, even though at no time was it ever separated from the sea to begin with. There never was a birth nor a death of the wave; merely manifestation of form from the formless, a manifestation that is purely empty and illusory. Only the formless source is real, and that source is Unborn, Ungrown, and Deathless. That a separate and distinct self that is born and dies is an illusion of the mind, but only a spiritual awakening can show you that.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I don't think anyone really knows, it's just a muddle of hopes and fears.