Declaration of Independence is certainly ban worthy

[atanu]

This could be giggle worthy or this could be very serious. Please note. Don't ever quote the Yank Declaration of Independence.

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From the wall of Irami Osei-Frimpong

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A few days ago, I was suspended from facebook for hate speech. I appealed the suspension, but the appeal was rejected, and I was given a thirty day suspension. Then there was a bit of a twitter media event over it, including some Lefty outlets, and a day later, the suspension was magically lifted.

What was I suspended for? Posting an excerpt from the Declaration of Independence, where the Founders indicted King George for stirring up slave insurrections and supporting Native Americans.

“excited domestic Insurrections among us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions.”

This was flagged as hate speech.

The conventional argument is that "This can't be hate speech; it's the Declaration of Independence!" I'm going to go the other way and say that the Declaration of Independence is hate speech in support of concentration camps and genocide. I'm sure there are other ways to describe slave plantations and Native American removal, but I'm also sure that concentration camps and genocide are appropriate descriptors.

What does it mean to have a nation that is founded on hate speech? We've casually assumed that there is an absolute distinction between Mein Kampf and the Declaration of Independence. That's an inappropriate assumption.
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I read the original and some of the comments. One person has commented “I know the guy who wrote the algorithm (FB algorithm) that did that and he's sorry”.

I giggled at the humour. The Facebook algorithm writer is not sorry that Irami has been wrongly blamed, but because his algorithm has dug up the ban worthiness of the Declaration of Independence.

 

[Lyndon]

but it is hate speech

 

[Lyndon]

The founding fathers were just as capable of hate speech as anyone else, they weren't gods

 

[Jimmy]

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From the wall of Irami Osei-Frimpong

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A few days ago, I was suspended from facebook for hate speech. I appealed the suspension, but the appeal was rejected, and I was given a thirty day suspension. Then there was a bit of a twitter media event over it, including some Lefty outlets, and a day later, the suspension was magically lifted.

What was I suspended for? Posting an excerpt from the Declaration of Independence, where the Founders indicted King George for stirring up slave insurrections and supporting Native Americans.

“excited domestic Insurrections among us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions.”

This was flagged as hate speech.

The conventional argument is that "This can't be hate speech; it's the Declaration of Independence!" I'm going to go the other way and say that the Declaration of Independence is hate speech in support of concentration camps and genocide. I'm sure there are other ways to describe slave plantations and Native American removal, but I'm also sure that concentration camps and genocide are appropriate descriptors.

What does it mean to have a nation that is founded on hate speech? We've casually assumed that there is an absolute distinction between Mein Kampf and the Declaration of Independence. That's an inappropriate assumption.
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I read the original and some of the comments. One person has commented “I know the guy who wrote the algorithm (FB algorithm) that did that and he's sorry”.

I giggled at the humour. The Facebook algorithm writer is not sorry that Irami has been wrongly blamed, but because his algorithm has dug up the ban worthiness of the Declaration of Independence.

This could be giggle worthy or this could be very serious. Please note. Don't ever quote the Yank Declaration of Independence.

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From the wall of Irami Osei-Frimpong

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A few days ago, I was suspended from facebook for hate speech. I appealed the suspension, but the appeal was rejected, and I was given a thirty day suspension. Then there was a bit of a twitter media event over it, including some Lefty outlets, and a day later, the suspension was magically lifted.

What was I suspended for? Posting an excerpt from the Declaration of Independence, where the Founders indicted King George for stirring up slave insurrections and supporting Native Americans.

“excited domestic Insurrections among us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions.”

This was flagged as hate speech.

The conventional argument is that "This can't be hate speech; it's the Declaration of Independence!" I'm going to go the other way and say that the Declaration of Independence is hate speech in support of concentration camps and genocide. I'm sure there are other ways to describe slave plantations and Native American removal, but I'm also sure that concentration camps and genocide are appropriate descriptors.

What does it mean to have a nation that is founded on hate speech? We've casually assumed that there is an absolute distinction between Mein Kampf and the Declaration of Independence. That's an inappropriate assumption.
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I read the original and some of the comments. One person has commented “I know the guy who wrote the algorithm (FB algorithm) that did that and he's sorry”.

I giggled at the humour. The Facebook algorithm writer is not sorry that Irami has been wrongly blamed, but because his algorithm has dug up the ban worthiness of the Declaration of Independence.

Well if god made the world, say 40-50 yrs ago that would make alot of things false wouldn’t it? Like having a nation that is founded on hate speech. I’m not taking away any of peoples very real painful memories, say more than 50 yrs ago however. What if though? Something to think about. Most people would think of that idea as crazy and offensive to peoples pains.

 

[MikeF]

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From the wall of Irami Osei-Frimpong

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A few days ago, I was suspended from facebook for hate speech. I appealed the suspension, but the appeal was rejected, and I was given a thirty day suspension. Then there was a bit of a twitter media event over it, including some Lefty outlets, and a day later, the suspension was magically lifted.

What was I suspended for? Posting an excerpt from the Declaration of Independence, where the Founders indicted King George for stirring up slave insurrections and supporting Native Americans.

“excited domestic Insurrections among us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions.”

This was flagged as hate speech.

The conventional argument is that "This can't be hate speech; it's the Declaration of Independence!" I'm going to go the other way and say that the Declaration of Independence is hate speech in support of concentration camps and genocide. I'm sure there are other ways to describe slave plantations and Native American removal, but I'm also sure that concentration camps and genocide are appropriate descriptors.

What does it mean to have a nation that is founded on hate speech? We've casually assumed that there is an absolute distinction between Mein Kampf and the Declaration of Independence. That's an inappropriate assumption.
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I read the original and some of the comments. One person has commented “I know the guy who wrote the algorithm (FB algorithm) that did that and he's sorry”.

I giggled at the humour. The Facebook algorithm writer is not sorry that Irami has been wrongly blamed, but because his algorithm has dug up the ban worthiness of the Declaration of Independence.

The American experiment has been a work in progress. It seems to me that it has been progressing.

 

[Heyo]

Well if god made the world, say 40-50 yrs ago that would make alot of things false wouldn’t it? Like having a nation that is founded on hate speech. I’m not taking away any of peoples very real painful memories, say more than 50 yrs ago however. What if though? Something to think about. Most people would think of that idea as crazy and offensive to peoples pains.

Why stop at 50 years (or 6000 years)? Why not last Thursday?

 

[Stevicus]

What does it mean to have a nation that is founded on hate speech?

It means that it was founded on capitalism. I don't think they were haters, though. That is, they didn't enslave and kill people to get their jollies. It was about money and about greed.

 

[atanu]

It means that it was founded on capitalism. I don't think they were haters, though. That is, they didn't enslave and kill people to get their jollies. It was about money and about greed.

I differ marginally. Industrial Capitalism began in the last third part of 18th century. So, it was very early Capitalism in America. Furthermore, the statement from the Declaration of Independence seems quite racial, which usually is not the characteristic of Capitalism. My point is that there seems to be element of ‘racial bias’ in the statement.

 

[Stevicus]

I differ marginally. Industrial Capitalism began in the last third part of 18th century. So, it was very early Capitalism in America. Furthermore, the statement from the Declaration of Independence seems quite racial, which usually is not the characteristic of Capitalism. My point is that there seems to be element of ‘racial bias’ in the statement.

Well, without splitting hairs over the definition of capitalism, let's just say that the early colonies were formed for economic reasons and the desire to make money and profit. Industrialism would feed that desire even more eventually, but the basic motivation was still there: Greed.

The question I might ask is, did the first English colonists at Jamestown have racial bias in 1607? Did English people or Europeans in general have a racial bias in the year 1200? Is it something that just comes natural with being white Europeans?

If not, then where did it come from? Did some white person just wake up one morning and decide "I think I'm going to be racist against Natives and African-Americans and I'm going to encourage my friends to do the same"? Is that how it all started?

I think if you explore that question more in depth, you'll find that my perception is likely closer to the truth.

That's what I can't understand about the current narrative, because people are trying to make it appear as if the wealthy business classes were just innocent bystanders in this whole enterprise, when they were the ones driving the train.

If your only point is that there's racial bias in the Declaration of Independence, then I agree with you. Although I don't think it tells the whole story. It doesn't explain the reason why.