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Definition of who you are

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I was talking to my ex a moment ago and I found out some things I wish I had known when we were dating. She says that being gay (LGBTQ identity), being African American, a woman, married, a mother, and so forth does not define her as a person. She says that the ability to give knowledge (things that are not concrete, in my words) defines her. I find that weird because everything and everyone I connect to and connects to me from family, creativity, to my sexual orientation/or my gender identity and sexuality as a woman defines who I am.

What defines you as who you are?

Do you believe people and/or environment can define you? Yes or no?

If they do not (like my friend), what defines you and how do you describe it?

If it is religious in nature, are there other things within that religious foundation that defines you or is it only religion or spirituality?
 
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Defining oneself in terms of one's relationship to a thing or things is a common and somewhat convenient way of "placing oneself" in a context. For instance, I might define myself in terms of my relationship to a science as a biologist, or I might define myself in terms of my relationship to a political entity as a city mayor.

But are any such definitions who we really are?

I don't think they are anymore (or any less) who we are than, say, defining ourselves in terms of our characteristic personality traits.

I think a case could be made that we are ultimately, or at least most significantly, no more and no less than what we happen to be doing at any given moment. It's rather clumsy to say something along the lines of "I am that person who is currently typing up a post on an internet forum", but it's possible that's actually more truthful than either my defining myself in terms of my relationship to some thing, or defining myself in terms of my personality.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
She says she is part of her children, but her children isnt a part of her. Does that make sense?
Yes it does make scene, most of mothers love to death their childern ,where is the problem in this!?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Defining oneself in terms of one's relationship to a thing or things is a common and somewhat convenient way of "placing oneself" in a context. For instance, I might define myself in terms of my relationship to a science as a biologist, or I might define myself in terms of my relationship to a political entity as a city mayor.

But are any such definitions who we really are?

I don't think they are anymore (or any less) who we are than, say, defining ourselves in terms of our characteristic personality traits.

I think a case could be made that we are ultimately, or at least most significantly, no more and no less than what we happen to be doing at any given moment. It's rather clumsy to say something along the lines of "I am that person who is currently typing up a post on an internet forum", but it's possible that's actually more truthful than either my defining myself in terms of my relationship to some thing, or defining myself in terms of my personality.


That would mean, if I'm understanding you correctly, that we would not be defined by our, say, personality traits only we defined them as a relationship to ourselves at a given moment?

Who are we if we are not defined by our environment, who we are in our relations to ourselves and others? If we had no awareness and even knowledge of other people even our mother and even language for that matter, wouldn't who we are just defined by skin cells, flesh, brain, and jumbled words?
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
I was talking to my ex a moment ago and I found out some things I wish I had known when we were dating. She says that being gay (LGBTQ identity), being African American, a woman, married, a mother, and so forth does not define her as a person. She says that the ability to give knowledge (things that are not concrete, in my words) defines her. I find that weird because everything and everyone I connect to and connects to me from family, creativity, to my sexual orientation/or my gender identity and sexuality as a woman defines who I am.

What defines you as who you are?

Do you believe people and/or environment can define you? Yes or no?

If they do not (like my friend), what defines you and how do you describe it?

If it is religious in nature, are there other things within that religious foundation that defines you or is it only religion or spirituality?
Idk but rf is apart of my identity
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
I was talking to my ex a moment ago and I found out some things I wish I had known when we were dating. She says that being gay (LGBTQ identity), being African American, a woman, married, a mother, and so forth does not define her as a person. She says that the ability to give knowledge (things that are not concrete, in my words) defines her. I find that weird because everything and everyone I connect to and connects to me from family, creativity, to my sexual orientation/or my gender identity and sexuality as a woman defines who I am.

What defines you as who you are?
Different people will define themselves in different ways.

No two people divide the world equally.

Do you believe people and/or environment can define you? Yes or no?
There is nothing else to define you.

If they do not (like my friend), what defines you and how do you describe it?
I'm sorry, but it's just like your friend. She says "the ability to give knowledge defines her." That's entirely empirical (i.e. from the environment).

If it is religious in nature, are there other things within that religious foundation that defines you or is it only religion or spirituality?
No idea.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
I'd say nothing we can talk about defines who we really are. By definition, anything by which we can define ourselves is a mental construct, coming after the fact of our observation of it.

But what defines us as people - well, the limited person-construct we identify with - is essentially everything about it which impacts upon its operation within the world. Which is any and all impermanent influences, fleeting or lasting as they may be.

I utterly failed to provide specificity on both fronts there, so as a third angle: things I personally identify with to greater or moderate degrees - being a progressive, being a Westerner by culture, being somewhat calmly eccentric, gender...
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
A soul temporarily inhabiting a physical body, with a temporary astral body and personality having developed around it.
 

Animore

Active Member
What defines you as who you are?

A nobody who pretends he's somebody.

Do you believe people and/or environment can define you? Yes or no?

People have definitions of others that he/she does not have. I feel there is no objective truth besides the fact that I am a being, an organism that happens to be a human. I'm sorry, forgive me if that's too melodramatic.

In short, yes and no.

If they do not (like my friend), what defines you and how do you describe it?

I suppose I'll add on to my first statement. I think that I am somebody who likes the idea of life being easy. And then I am reminded that it isn't. I want to stand out, be different, be weird, be cool, be interesting, and learn things that are not easily understood. That usually never happens, however, and I must learn to live with that.
 

Aiviu

Active Member
What defines you as who you are?

Do you believe people and/or environment can define you? Yes or no?

If they do not (like my friend), what defines you and how do you describe it?

If it is religious in nature, are there other things within that religious foundation that defines you or is it only religion or spirituality?

Things i said and done will define who i was and who i has become. This path defines who i am. How i changed and what did made out of it eventually.

the people and the weather can influence on how we react. But in last instance its our hidden underlaying force who wants us to define ourselves by how we decide to live. It goes more hand in hand. so i would say both.

Self reflections prevents yourself from becoming someone you dont want to become. I guess this was the writer intention anyways, ppl rely on what is written a bit too much. They never feel an urge to evidence their believe to themself because they think "the wish to believe" is evidence enough.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
She says she is a part of her children but her child is not a part of her.

Does that make sense?

Her children is not a part of her?
Excuse me I was mistake, .i read it "her child part of her" !o!

Yes.you right , its doest make sense, for my opinion she is not normal mother/woman.
 

SpiritQuest

The Immortal Man
What defines you as who you are?

I am, the immortal man. The universal oneness of the all defines who I am. If knowledge can be defined as collections of separate or different(divided) facts of experience ...then total knowledge would be known as the undivided wholeness of Being or gnosis.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Excuse me I was mistake, .i read it "her child part of her" !o!

Yes.you right , its doest make sense, for my opinion she is not normal mother/woman.

It's okay. I scratched my head when she told me. I was completely surprised because she has been around the world, has good ties with her family, two beautiful children, a good marriage with her wife, identify as lesbian, african american, yet these things, she says, is not what defines or or a part of her.

Let me know if you got all that ;)
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Defining oneself in terms of one's relationship to a thing or things is a common and somewhat convenient way of "placing oneself" in a context. For instance, I might define myself in terms of my relationship to a science as a biologist, or I might define myself in terms of my relationship to a political entity as a city mayor.

But are any such definitions who we really are?

I don't think they are anymore (or any less) who we are than, say, defining ourselves in terms of our characteristic personality traits.

I think a case could be made that we are ultimately, or at least most significantly, no more and no less than what we happen to be doing at any given moment. It's rather clumsy to say something along the lines of "I am that person who is currently typing up a post on an internet forum", but it's possible that's actually more truthful than either my defining myself in terms of my relationship to some thing, or defining myself in terms of my personality.

Or, just for the sake of argument, is this just the action that follows the person? Could the real person be the one who conceived the concept and the action of typing?
 
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