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Democracy

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Why win? Why against? That's democratic atrocities. In anarchy, everyone decide for themselves what to do, they don't oppress others with their decisions.

That would be nice, but is highly unlikely. What if my neighbor starts dumping stuff in the brook by my house and poisons everything downstream from him?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Warn him to stop or he'll face a consequence.

Which would be me asserting my dominance through violence, no? And if I weren't able to, I would get anyone else downstream to band together and force him to stop. He may get like-minded folk together to counter. Or, people would decide polluting the water is bad for the community and make a law against it. Either way, it becomes democratically decided be in through force or peaceful negotiation of rules.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
Which would be me asserting my dominance through violence, no? And if I weren't able to, I would get anyone else downstream to band together and force him to stop. He may get like-minded folk together to counter. Or, people would decide polluting the water is bad for the community and make a law against it. Either way, it becomes democratically decided be in through force or peaceful negotiation of rules.
Your dominance? What dominance? Can you explain a little more?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Your dominance? What dominance? Can you explain a little more?

He wants to dump stuff in the stream, I don't want him to because of the damage it does on my end. I could ask politely, but what if he refuses? What consequences could he face (as you suggested)? I could force him to stop through violence. But in a community this becomes a big issue, since we can't have these problems being solved through violence everytime.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
He wants to dump stuff in the stream, I don't want him to because of the damage it does on my end.
The brook is vital to you. You want it clean because your body demands water. Also, the man who wants to make it dirty, his body also demands clean water. The man who goes against his own body is probably deranged.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
The brook is vital to you. You want it clean because your body demands water. Also, the man who wants to make it dirty, his body also demands clean water. The man who goes against his own body is probably deranged.

It doesn't impact him since it goes downstream and he was a separate well. Or, he just doesn't understand the impact of what he does or simply doesn't care a profits from it. This isn't hypothetical; I live along the Androscoggin River in Maine, and it was considered one of the most polluted rivers due to the paper mills along it.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
We could vote. As lond as it doesn't form a goverment.

My idea was to vote on your OP.

Democracy is the worst and it's disgusting. Voting is the core of everything evil.​

I think you are safe with it not forming a government
 

syo

Well-Known Member
It doesn't impact him since it goes downstream and he was a separate well. Or, he just doesn't understand the impact of what he does or simply doesn't care a profits from it. This isn't hypothetical; I live along the Androscoggin River in Maine, and it was considered one of the most polluted rivers due to the paper mills along it.
It does impact him. If he pollutes, he can't drink.

What kind of lifestyle some people think they have??? :shrug: Deranged?
 

paradox

(㇏(•̀ᵥᵥ•́)ノ)
Anarchy and nihilism.
In anarchic system there would be no police or juridical system to protect you,
bad guys would come and take from you what ever they want.

What would you do?
Who would you call?
 

syo

Well-Known Member
In anarchic system there would be no police or juridical system to protect you,
bad guys would come and take from you what ever they want.

What would you do?
Who would you call?
Bad guys? In anarchy? How? Bad guys exist in democracy.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
It does impact him. If he pollutes, he can't drink.

What kind of lifestyle some people think they have??? :shrug: Deranged?

I appreciate your optimism, but again, this isn't hypothetical. People do things that negatively impacts other people.
 

paradox

(㇏(•̀ᵥᵥ•́)ノ)
Bad guys? In anarchy? How? Bad guys exist in democracy.
Anarchy means absence or rule of law.

Everyone can do what ever they want, you defend your self however you can and survive how ever you know, the law of the Jungle rules anarchy.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
I appreciate your optimism, but again, this isn't hypothetical. People do things that negatively impacts other people.
Like? The basics have zero impact; nihilism.

Then, there are the made-up ''needs''. Now, that's the negative ones.

I will give an example. A man with an unattractive face falls in love with a beautiful woman and he wants sex. The woman doesn't want him. Then the ugly man starts civilization, in order that he could get himself in her pants.

Is that what you mean?
 
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