Democrats only: Are there lessons to be learned for team Harris?

[esmith]

well to start with the subject line is one reason you lost.......... You only listen to people you agree with.

 

[Stevicus]

I think this article accurately represents my thoughts on the issue:

Maureen Dowd: Democrats and the case of mistaken identity politics

More people voted for Trump, even though many didn’t like him, because they liked Democratic Party less

www.irishtimes.com

I think this article makes some good, cogent points.

Gobsmacked Democrats have reacted to the wipeout in different ways. Some think Kamala did not court the left enough, touting trans rights and repudiating Israel.

Other Democrats feel the opposite, calling on the party to reimagine itself.

Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, a vulnerable Democrat in a red congressional district in Washington, narrowly held her seat. The 36-year-old mother of a toddler and owner of an auto shop told The New York Times’ Annie Karni that Democratic condescension has to go. “There’s not one weird trick that’s going to fix the Democratic Party,” she said. “It is going to take parents of young kids, people in rural communities, people in the trades running for office and being taken seriously.”

The point about Democratic condescension should not be taken lightly. Sometimes, they spread it on a bit too thick.

On CNN, Democratic strategist Julie Roginsky said that Democrats did not know how to talk to normal Americans.

Addressing Latinos as “Latinx” to be politically correct “makes them think that we don’t even live on the same planet as they do,” she said. “When we are too afraid to say that ‘Hey, college kids, if you’re trashing a campus of Columbia University because you aren’t happy about some sort of policy and you’re taking over a university and you’re trashing it and preventing other students from learning, that that is unacceptable.’ But we’re so worried about alienating one or another cohort in our coalition that we don’t know what to say.”

Kamala, a Democratic lawmaker told me, made the “colossal mistake” of running a billion-dollar campaign with celebrities like Beyoncé when many of the struggling working-class voters she wanted couldn’t even afford a ticket to a Beyoncé concert, much less a down payment on a home.

“I don’t think the average person said, ‘Kamala Harris gets what I’m going through’,” this Democrat said.

Kamala, who sprinted to the left in her 2020 Democratic primary campaign, tried to move toward the centre for this election, making sure to say she’d shoot an intruder with her Glock. But it sounded tinny.

The article notes that James Carville made an interesting point:

James Carville gave Kamala credit for not leaning into her gender and ethnicity. But he said the party had become enamoured of “identitarianism” – a word he uses because he won’t say “woke” – radiating the repellent idea that “identity is more important than humanity”.

“We could never wash off the stench of it,” he said, calling “defund the police” “the three stupidest words in the English language.”

Some Democrats seem to be getting it, while others are more inclined to double down, stick to their guns, and believe that they can do no wrong.

 

[BrightShadow]

Taking someone to the train station means you're going to push them off a cliff and kill them.

As a skeptic thinker - you are supposed to follow the evidence and see what the conversation was about.
Did you do that? Nah!

You took something out-of-context and then responded with a loony response that doesn't even make any sense! What cliff? What killing?

Follow the evidence and see the context. Click on the little arrow facing upwards next to the profile name on a quote. Keep clicking until you see the context.

Keep in mind - this thread is a liberal international post election convention for the mourners ... aka the Democrats who are trying to figure out what they could have done differently. It is not a place for me to write about how Trump is not a hardcore Republican.

So I told him to do his own research.
I am here to just tell him - not educate him.

I am here to tell him to go to the station - not give him a ride there. Do you understand the context now?

Go join him - together head towards the train station.

By the way - did you decide if you (a woman) will go into the boxing ring against a man who suddenly decided he is a woman?

 

[SkepticThinker]

As a skeptic thinker - you are supposed to follow the evidence and see what the conversation was about.
Did you do that? Nah!

You took something out-of-context and then responded with a loony response that doesn't even make any sense! What cliff? What killing?

Follow the evidence and see the context. Click on the little arrow facing upwards next to the profile name on a quote. Keep clicking until you see the context.

Keep in mind - this thread is a liberal international post election convention for the mourners ... aka the Democrats who are trying to figure out what they could have done differently. It is not a place for me to write about how Trump is not a hardcore Republican.

So I told him to do his own research.
I am here to just tell him - not educate him.

I am here to tell him to go to the station - not give him a ride there. Do you understand the context now?

Go join him - together head towards the train station.

Nope. I took your quotation that you took from Yellowstone, and explained what it means. It doesn't mean anything else.

No, I'm not going to go jump off a cliff and kill myself. Thanks for the stellar advice though.

By the way - did you decide if you (a woman) will go into the boxing ring against a man who suddenly decided he is a woman?

Never happened.

I have shared washrooms with trans women and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

 

[BrightShadow]

Nope. I took your quotation that you took from Yellowstone, and explained what it means. It doesn't mean anything else.

Your perception is your reality. Live in it but it doesn't represent the truth.
I used it in my context.
Try to get it or don't.

I have shared washrooms with trans women and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

Did I say anything about "washroom"?
What kind of response is that?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Your perception is your reality. Live in it but it doesn't represent the truth.
I used it in my context.
Try to get it or don't.

Did I say anything about "washroom"?
What kind of response is that?

Try reading my entire response instead of clipping bits here and there.

 

[BrightShadow]

Try reading my entire response instead of clipping bits here and there.

The question was -
If you were a female boxer - would you go into the boxing ring against a man who claims to be a woman?
What was your answer?

 

[SkepticThinker]

The question was -
If you were a female boxer - would you go into the boxing ring against a man who claims to be a woman?
What was your answer?

My answer was that never happened.
You're obviously referring to the last Olympics.