but why take offence if you consider me your equal?
Lol, you've been asked multiple times to not be rude personally, as you can't distinguish between ego, and soul speaking...
You've got a very limited understanding on many religions globally, and refuse knowledge... Why would i consider you an equal?
To be straight tho, i consider myself below you, as only then can i truly try to raise the standard a bit...
Please forgive me for having to chastise; yet seriously i've spent my life studying morality, and sometimes in these conversations, finding the mannerism like an egotistical westernized savage, who only knows how to fight.
so don't lecture me on what the Gita says about it.
Wasn't lecturing, it is on context of the conversation, if people are not observant in their speech, then they prove they've got demons, and thus if they don't follow the Dharma, yet are busy defiling it by their words, of course i will defend the Dharma against such people.
Hmm, assuming the Phala of someones karma, not good.
It isn't an assumption to see Karma in the Matrix, to know how to change Karma reality via thought....
Most avatars know these things it is part of being One in consciousness, that we get shown these things....
Personally hardly go out, as find it as scary as Hell out there; as seems people have forgotten we can all see these things.
Forgiveness comes from repentance, which means to turn back towards the light; if someones attitude doesn't show they've been willing to learn, then how can one forgive them, if they're not willing to change.
"We're not in Naraka, it is below us in the lowest quantum level, in the dense fabric of matter....",
Your own interpretation does not match anything that is in your Wiki quote
It isn't an interpretation, it is based on first hand experience of having been there, and shown some of how reality functions...
So rather than quote from some ancient source, which doesn't have our modern scientific understanding, merely went to explain it from a more current explanation.
Admit could've gone searching around Hindu concepts to explain the same; yet due to multiple superstitions being interwoven over time, it is often not as scientific.
Naraka to be "a place of Man', but only take it to be the Underworld because it justifies your preconceived ideas.
Because it matches the dictionary meaning of the word 'Naraka', which means 'underworld'....
Defining something as a place of man, that has many other conscious entities there is stupid.
If Naraka is here, we have all been here and are here now, nothing special about you sir.
I'm not special for having been to Naraka, there are many NDEs, lots of religions globally all describing the same place below us.
Arjuna may have had these beliefs, does not mean that the Gita is making a statement about a actual Hell.
If you're going to only take one of the references to Naraka in the Gita; yet there are two, and the second also defines it as a place people are sent to.
then when I snap myself out of this delusion, i tend to see things differently.
Right so basically, your not open to questioning, as your preconceived notions override even accepting a different understanding; will remember your a waste of time having Satsang with, as you're not seeking truth.
Makes me more confident that you sir a vary much drowning in your own egoistic delusions.
Sorry, yet I'm just explaining my life experiences, and the idea you see that as ego only comes from you.
maybe being a bit upfront and straight forward with people like that we can at least ensure they are aware of their own faults.
Wow, not shown any faults, just made your own personal religious values seem very weak by your continual lack of manners, composure, and inner peace.
Just to be clear this is the last time replying to so much ego from you, it is bad to even be evolved in such lack of discernment; forgive me, as do feel have been rude in response, yet this is just escalating due to a continued inability to not separate topic, and person.
