Depending on trust only, not a good idea.

[factseeker88]

I don't know about you guys and Dolls, but I don't trust anyone with an ax to grind, no matter what their social, business, and political status is. The only people I do trust are those I can relate with, have things in common, concern for peoples health, welfare and their jobs.

:yes::yes::yes:

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“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.” John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]

 

[Revoltingest]

I trust people to behave as their history indicates.
When they promise something inconsistent with their history, then don't trust'm.

 

[savagewind]

I don't know about you guys and Dolls, but I don't trust anyone with an ax to grind, no matter what their social, business, and political status is. The only people I do trust are those I can relate with, have things in common, concern for peoples health, welfare and their jobs.

:yes::yes::yes:

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]factseeker88[/FONT]


“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.” John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]

I don't trust anyone who in their mind convicts another of grinding the ax.

 

[metis]

Trust no one and you'll not be disappointed.

 

[Mycroft]

I don't know about you guys and Dolls, but I don't trust anyone with an ax to grind, no matter what their social, business, and political status is. The only people I do trust are those I can relate with, have things in common, concern for peoples health, welfare and their jobs.

:yes::yes::yes:

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]factseeker88[/FONT]


“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.” John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]

So when you get on an aircraft, are you not trusting that the pilot knows how to fly it and trusting that the aviation airline has trained him appropriately?

When you go to hospital, are you not trusting that the surgeon knows what he's doing?

At the doctors, are you not trusting that his diagnosis is correct? After all, if he tells you that you have to have an organ removed, how do you know this is the case? He may be involved in some illicit organ trade, for all you know? So you trust that his diagnosis is correct.

When you get into a car, you trust that the intruments are giving you accurate data.

You trust the bank with your money.

I could go on.

 

[LuisDantas]

I don't know about you guys and Dolls, but I don't trust anyone with an ax to grind, no matter what their social, business, and political status is. The only people I do trust are those I can relate with, have things in common, concern for peoples health, welfare and their jobs.

:yes::yes::yes:

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]factseeker88[/FONT]


“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.” John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]

As I see it, trust does indeed demand personal knowledge of some degree.

As for the ax to grind, why should it be a decisive factor? Is it not possible to have a legitimate need of that kind?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I trust people to behave as their history indicates.

This is my preferred definition of trust. Incidentally, I don't find myself having trust issues with people and rarely encounter situations where I feel betrayed. I trust people to do what my experience, intuition, and observations indicate that they will do, and never rely on what someone says they will do.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

"But thus I counsel you, my friends: Mistrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful. They are people of a low sort and stock; the hangman and the bloodhound look out of their faces. Mistrust all who talk much of their justice! Verily, their souls lack more than honey. And when they call themselves the good and the just, do not forget that they would be pharisees, if only they had - power."
~ Nietzsche, 1892/1966, Thus Spoke Zarathustra (W. Kaufmann, Trans.), p. 100

 

[YmirGF]

Trust no one and you'll not be disappointed.

I'm rarely disappointed then.

 

[factseeker88]

I'm rarely disappointed then.

Does that mean you are self- sufficient, need no one to relate with?

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“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.” John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]This moment is your life. [/FONT]Omar Khayyam

 

[Quintessence]

As I see it, trust does indeed demand personal knowledge of some degree.

As for the ax to grind, why should it be a decisive factor? Is it not possible to have a legitimate need of that kind?

If the axe being ground is against me and my people, yeah, that would be a pretty decisive factor in trust for me for the simple reason of "I need to protect myself and my kin from harm." And in general, the level of intolerance usually accompanying those who grind such axes merits caution, I think.

I'm curious, factseeker88, if you universally distrust axe grinders or only distrust axe grinders that are a direct threat to you and your people. Regardless, what is it about such people that merits distrust?

 

[factseeker88]

I don't trust anyone who in their mind convicts another of grinding the ax.

Problem is we have no control over who we trust or don't trust. We are what our behavior conditioning made us.

 

[YmirGF]

Trust no one and you'll not be disappointed.

I learned at a very tender age not to trust other human animals. I'll give them enough rope to work with, but I also like to see what they'll do with it.

 

[Yerda]

I learned at a very tender age not to trust other human animals. I'll give them enough rope to work with, but I also like to see what they'll do with it.

Perhaps it is just me, but I've found repeatedly that the person most likely to decieve me, is me. There are others who I would trust with my life.

 

[YmirGF]

Perhaps it is just me, but I've found repeatedly that the person most likely to decieve me, is me. There are others who I would trust with my life.

I didn't say that there are not some people I implicitly trust, now, did I? They have earned my trust. The rest of you will just have to work harder, LOL.

 

[Yerda]

I didn't say that there are not some people I implicitly trust, now, did I?

I didn't mean to suggest you had.

 

[YmirGF]

I didn't mean to suggest you had.

*looks around suspiciously*

Ok... now, get to work...

 

[esmith]

Trust like respect is something that has to be earned. However, nothing says that the trust or respect can not be withdrawn.

 

[factseeker88]

My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
John F. Kennedy January 20, 1961>>

Kennedy was supposed to be a Democrat, the party that helps the poor and helpless.

 

[esmith]

My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
John F. Kennedy January 20, 1961>>

Kennedy was supposed to be a Democrat, the party that helps the poor and helpless.

What's your point?????