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Derpy Donny Dollhands screws over military families. Again.

Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Kangaroo Feathers said:
"Some children of US troops born overseas will no longer get automatic American citizenship, Trump administration says Some children of US troops born overseas will no longer get automatic American citizenship, Trump administration says "

But tell us again how Trump is "the best at the military" again, please.
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This policy will apply only to offspring of military service members or government workers serving abroad and who have not lived in America for a significant amount of time. The parents of these children would have to be non-U.S. citizens who are residents of the U.S, as well as those becoming naturalized after their child’s birth. The policy isn't applicable to children born to at least one U.S. citizen parent having lived in America for any significant amount of time.

Less than an estimated 100 offspring each year born to non-U.S. citizens serving in the U.S. military would be affected by this rule,
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Salvador said:
This policy will apply only to offspring of military service members or government workers serving abroad and who have not lived in America for a significant amount of time. The parents of these children would have to be non-U.S. citizens who are residents of the U.S, as well as those becoming naturalized after their child’s birth. The policy isn't applicable to children born to at least one U.S. citizen parent having lived in America for any significant amount of time.

Less than an estimated 100 offspring each year born to non-U.S. citizens serving in the U.S. military would be affected by this rule,
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So what. He's screwing 100 people as part of his dark policy. It's just one more piece of sewage flowing from the ugly swamp that he unleashed in DC.

LOCK HIM UP.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Getting all cranky & upset over a change in procedure.
The kids can become citizens by Delayed Registration Of Foreign Birth.
Easy to do....for citizens
Derpy dollhanded Australiastanians wouldn't know about this.

But consider that this policy applies to non-citizens who are
living abroad. Sure they're in federal employ, but if this
doesn't make them citizens, why should their children
born overseas automatically be citizens?
What other countries grant citizenship in that manner?
 
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Enoch07

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Something also glanced over by lefties that know nothing about the military. If a child is born on an armed forces base in another country. They are U.S. citizens automatically. Military bases, even in foreign countries, are considered U.S. soil. So the only way for a soldier's child to not be an automatic citizen is if he hasn't married the mother, and the child is born outside an army base.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Enoch07 said:
Something also glanced over by lefties that know nothing about the military. If a child is born on an armed forces base in another country. They are U.S. citizens automatically. Military bases, even in foreign countries, are considered U.S. soil. So the only way for a soldier's child to not be an automatic citizen is if he hasn't married the mother, and the child is born outside an army base.
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Don't ruin a good rant with relevant facts.
 
Kangaroo Feathers

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Enoch07 said:
Something also glanced over by lefties that know nothing about the military. If a child is born on an armed forces base in another country. They are U.S. citizens automatically. Military bases, even in foreign countries, are considered U.S. soil. So the only way for a soldier's child to not be an automatic citizen is if he hasn't married the mother, and the child is born outside an army base.
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Read the article before cramming that foot in your mouth any further :rolleyes:
 
Kangaroo Feathers

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Who possibly could have predicted the trumpettes and Usual Suspects falling over themselves to excuse Trump's latest attack on military families, and ad hominem attacks on those pointing it out? I, for one, am shocked, shocked, I tell you
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Kangaroo Feathers said:
Who possibly could have predicted the trumpettes and Usual Suspects falling over themselves to excuse Trump's latest attack on military families, and ad hominem attacks on those pointing it out? I, for one, am shocked, shocked, I tell you
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How is that an attack on military families?

Are we talkin about real families, or GI Joe knocking up Coochie min?
 
Shiranui117

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Kangaroo Feathers said:
Read the article before cramming that foot in your mouth any further :rolleyes:
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I read the actual policy. They're making these changes to bring the law in conformity with amendments made to citizenship laws back in 2008.

Trump's administration isn't doing anything new. They're just updating policy to reflect 11-year-old law, as page 9 of the policy indicates.
 
Shiranui117

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
SkepticThinker said:
How does this even make sense?
Is it just some sick way to get back at John McCain?
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If a soldier is not a citizen and fathers a child with a foreigner outside of the US, that soldier has no US citizenship to confer upon the child. And if the US employs locals (non-US citizens) to work desk jobs or custodial jobs or something of that nature at a given embassy or office, I don't see how their children could be considered US citizens either. Where this policy does confuse me, however, is whether US military bases are still considered US soil for the purposes of citizenship. Now, a child of a US citizen with established residence in the US is still unaffected by this policy; the parent is a US citizen, and so automatically confers US citizenship on their child as well. The policy states that somebody who is sent abroad by the US government in an official employment capacity is not considered to have ceased residing in the US.

Case in point, permanent residents of the US who must have 5 years of continuous residence in the US are not considered to have interrupted their residence if they are sent by the US government to work in a government office or on a military base. My understanding after reading the policy in full is that their official residency is considered to be put on pause.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Shiranui117 said:
I read the actual policy. They're making these changes to bring the law in conformity with amendments made to citizenship laws back in 2008.

Trump's administration isn't doing anything new. They're just updating policy to reflect 11-year-old law, as page 9 of the policy indicates.
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An educated and properly informed person, a beautiful thing! =O)
 
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