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Despicable Action At DNC

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
So how are you suggesting we keep people from crossing our borders illegal. Or do you go for the open borders people?
Don't move the goal posts, champ! I am having fun! ;)
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Under no circumstances would I ever agree with Black Lives Matter. I will only agree with All Lives Matter.

FYI I haven't watched anything but local news since the dog and pony shows of the RNC and DNC started.
Well, if you haven't watched either of them, then where did you get the "information" from before putting forth the OP? You are "hostile" because of whom told you what, esmith?

BTW, it's no surprise to me that you would never agree with "Black Lives Matter", but your "logic" isn't too good because if you firmly believe in "All Lives Matter", then that logically must include "Black Lives Matter".
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I have never been totally hostile of the Democrat Party until what happened at the Democrats Convention. When they only invite the mothers of those killed by the police and ignore the mothers or wives of Police Officers murdered in the past months then they, the Democrats, are a bunch of pandering (no words to describe).
I thought that this was supposed to be a Nation united not a Nation divided. But it appears that the Democrats are willing to stoop to the lowest levels to obtain votes.
Yet basically presiding over a lynch mob at the RNC and the disgusting and disturbing exploitation of an obviously traumatized Pat Smith is just fine and dandy?

I thought the DNC handled the BLM issue with class and dignity.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Esmith! You forgot to mention on what planet an officer who wrongfuly murders a Black man, Black woman, or Black child is typically found guilty of the crime. Gosh! It's almost like you're so poorly informed that you think it's typical here on Earth!
It is my opinion that the majority of the time a person (and I could care less what their ethnicity is) had complied with the LEO then the incident would not have happened. If you fail to head the orders of the LEO then they must place that person in a different category. That category is possible assault against the LEO. Only an idiot would become aggressive against a person who has the legal right to take any action they deem necessary. Yes there are questionable incidents and the majority of the time the law sides with the LEO.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
At least their supporters are not advocating to kill others. So yeah I agree with the premise, but I would have prefered them to say All Lives Matter which includes Blue Lives.
And neither does Black Lives Matter, and I've linked you and others to their website, and yet you come back with the above.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
@esmith, you haven't yet stated where you got your "information" from for the OP if you haven't been watching any of the conventions.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
If they were innocent then the officer or officers involved with have been found guilty. Of course that doesn't matter to some.

Maybe, but in many of these cases the officer makes a claim, that a unarmed man looked like he was reaching for a gun for example, and gets off with a slap on the wrist. Even a manslaughter charge with a light sentence doesn't wring true to the community who sees it happen multiple times. And even that much doesn't happen in most cases.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Well, if you haven't watched either of them, then where did you get the "information" from before putting forth the OP? You are "hostile" because of whom told you what, esmith?
Well you see I sometimes talk and even listen to people. In this case it was a couple of local Sheriff Deputies.

BTW, it's no surprise to me that you would never agree with "Black Lives Matter", but your "logic" isn't too good because if you firmly believe in "All Lives Matter", then that logically must include "Black Lives Matter".
I have never found "in your face" protesters acceptable. And that is not a recent judgment, it goes back over 50 years,
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
It is my opinion that the majority of the time a person (and I could care less what their ethnicity is) had complied with the LEO then the incident would not have happened. If you fail to head the orders of the LEO then they must place that person in a different category. That category is possible assault against the LEO. Only an idiot would become aggressive against a person who has the legal right to take any action they deem necessary. Yes there are questionable incidents and the majority of the time the law sides with the LEO.

But even the definition of aggressive is up for grabs. If someone questions a officer, is that aggressive? Because I've seen police act like it was. If someone verbally argues with an officer? How about someone being manhandled by a cop during a search and the suspect resist being thrown against a car?

In too many cases, aggressive means doing something the officer doesn't like. That is not grounds for shooting someone or even getting rough with someone.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Well you see I sometimes talk and even listen to people. In this case it was a couple of local Sheriff Deputies.


I have never found "in your face" protesters acceptable. And that is not a recent judgment, it goes back over 50 years,
So, how exactly do you supposedly know what these deputies supposedly know without checking up on the story they told you?
Also, I also don't blindly accept what some protesters might spout, which is why visiting an official website and also listening to what the leaders are actually saying is a more sensible way to go. Here: http://blacklivesmatter.com/
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
If they were innocent then the officer or officers involved with have been found guilty. Of course that doesn't matter to some.
No. About half of the killings by the police are not justified and yet only 1% of police that could be charged are indicted for ANY crime.
And that's just being charged with a crime, the vast majority of police charged are acquitted or have the case dismissed. And those that are found guilty receive a ridiculously light sentence.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
So, how exactly do you supposedly know what these deputies supposedly know without checking up on the story they told you?
Also, I also don't blindly accept what some protesters might spout, which is why visiting an official website and also listening to what the leaders are actually saying is a more sensible way to go. Here: http://blacklivesmatter.com/
Well you know I could really care less what your opinion on whether I do or don't question their statement. I'll take their word anytime. Got a problem with that? (and I could really care less if you do).

Here's an example of your group. http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/07/26/black-lives-matter-segregates-reporters-race-dnc
No, the story was sent to me by a friend (ex-shipmate)
On Tuesday, Black Lives Matter activists took to the streets in Philadelphia to protest police-involved shootings of African-Americans.

During the demonstrations, protesters attempted to segregate members of the media based on their race.

"White media get to the back! Black media come to the front!" one activist shouted into a megaphone.

When white journalists didn't immediately comply, she singled one of them out.

"Excuse me, sir!" she yelled. "Somebody needs to tell this person to get to the back. Go! Somebody needs to tell these folks to get to the back!"

"We are not afraid to put people out! White people to the back! Black people to the front!"
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Well you know I could really care less what your opinion on whether I do or don't question their statement. I'll take their word anytime. Got a problem with that? (and I could really care less if you do).
Well, if you "could really care less about my opinion", then why did you respond back?:p

Secondly, your blindly accepting someone else's word as if it were gospel involves even more blind faith than almost any rabid fundamentalist. Hey, if you're not willing to actually check out to make sure they're correct, then I think we can see why you believe in what you want to believe-- to hell with any objectivity whatsoever.

I posted a link to the BLM website, but my guess is that you never checked it out because you simply would prefer to trust your deputies more than getting info from "the horse's mouth".

I can fully see why you're going to vote for Trump.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
Well you know I could really care less what your opinion on whether I do or don't question their statement. I'll take their word anytime. Got a problem with that? (and I could really care less if you do).

Here's an example of your group. http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/07/26/black-lives-matter-segregates-reporters-race-dnc
No, the story was sent to me by a friend (ex-shipmate)

I love these 'examples'. It's no different than when the tea party protesters were depicted as morons and klan members.

In any large crowd there are always morons. Just look at this forum....
 
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